For the cost of three of those Gearld R, Ford class aircraft carriers we can pay for Medicare for all for over a decade. There are
currently one commissioned, one under construction, and three scheduled. Cancel the last three and you have medicare for all for a decade. Ten years after that we may have solved the problem more permanently. Probably not because we’re AMERICANS!!!.
davidc1says
@1 But ,you can’t put a price on a shiny new aircraft carrier .Don’t wish to depress you ,but there is a chance that
one day there might be a USS trump ,one more reason for impeachment .
Callinectessays
I don’t think spiders know about the third one.
Reginald Selkirksays
Reducing military spending could support healthcare access to all
Perhaps if we were actually paying for that military spending, but we are not. We are running a very large deficit.
No, I am not a deficit hawk, I am just pointing out a weakness in the above statement. And it should be clear that Republicans are not actually concerned about the deficit, at least not when they have the White House. And also, the link between deficit spending and inflation is now seriously in question.
gijoelsays
I don’t think cutting US military spending make a lick of difference. A lot of Americans seem pathologically averse to universal health care.
Thoughts And Prayers work better than free healthcare anyways, doncha know. It’s a pity that the US military doesn’t develop proper weapons with all their money, billions of devout leaflets dropped by simple balloons would surely kill or cure the enemy even sooner.
markr1957says
With the advent of Russian and Chinese hypersonic missiles, aircraft carriers are now multi-billion dollar scrap heaps that haven’t been sunk yet. The world has moved on from gunboat diplomacy, but the military is still building for the 20th century. Far better to spend all those billions on smaller less easily detectable targets like living healthy humans.
Nemosays
The thing is, the people who want to spend more money on the military don’t want to spend it on health care. It’s not the lack of money that’s holding them back. Regardless whether we’re running a surplus or a deficit, regardless what else money is being spent on, regardless what size the debt is or isn’t, they are never going to want to spend more money on health care. They are always going to want to spend more on the military, and on tax cuts. It’s not ever about the budget, really — it’s about the things they value vs. the things they despise.
So the next time you hear someone respond to a proposal for a bold new social program with “But how are you going to pay for that?”, know that the person asking that is a liar, a fool, or both.
canadianstevesays
Nemo said
They are always going to want to spend more on the military, and on tax cuts. It’s not ever about the budget, really — it’s about the things they value vs. the things they despise.
So the next time you hear someone respond to a proposal for a bold new social program with “But how are you going to pay for that?”, know that the person asking that is a liar, a fool, or both.
this, but this doesn’t even go far enough. It seems these people are willing to pay more themselves just to be sure that some other person doesn’t “get something they didn’t deserve.”
Hypothetical question to most Americans – you can have healthcare for $1000 per month which is comprehensive and no co-pays, and everyone is covered or you can have health care with co-pays, is less comprehensive and costs $1500 per month, but people that don’t pay don’t get care. It seems a shockingly large percentage of Americans choose option B
jimzysays
What’s wrong with a canceled USS Donald Trump? Keel hauling Trump under the Trump would be great Karma.
Ray Ceeya says
For the cost of three of those Gearld R, Ford class aircraft carriers we can pay for Medicare for all for over a decade. There are
currently one commissioned, one under construction, and three scheduled. Cancel the last three and you have medicare for all for a decade. Ten years after that we may have solved the problem more permanently. Probably not because we’re AMERICANS!!!.
davidc1 says
@1 But ,you can’t put a price on a shiny new aircraft carrier .Don’t wish to depress you ,but there is a chance that
one day there might be a USS trump ,one more reason for impeachment .
Callinectes says
I don’t think spiders know about the third one.
Reginald Selkirk says
Perhaps if we were actually paying for that military spending, but we are not. We are running a very large deficit.
No, I am not a deficit hawk, I am just pointing out a weakness in the above statement. And it should be clear that Republicans are not actually concerned about the deficit, at least not when they have the White House. And also, the link between deficit spending and inflation is now seriously in question.
gijoel says
I don’t think cutting US military spending make a lick of difference. A lot of Americans seem pathologically averse to universal health care.
Lofty says
Thoughts And Prayers work better than free healthcare anyways, doncha know. It’s a pity that the US military doesn’t develop proper weapons with all their money, billions of devout leaflets dropped by simple balloons would surely kill or cure the enemy even sooner.
markr1957 says
With the advent of Russian and Chinese hypersonic missiles, aircraft carriers are now multi-billion dollar scrap heaps that haven’t been sunk yet. The world has moved on from gunboat diplomacy, but the military is still building for the 20th century. Far better to spend all those billions on smaller less easily detectable targets like living healthy humans.
Nemo says
The thing is, the people who want to spend more money on the military don’t want to spend it on health care. It’s not the lack of money that’s holding them back. Regardless whether we’re running a surplus or a deficit, regardless what else money is being spent on, regardless what size the debt is or isn’t, they are never going to want to spend more money on health care. They are always going to want to spend more on the military, and on tax cuts. It’s not ever about the budget, really — it’s about the things they value vs. the things they despise.
So the next time you hear someone respond to a proposal for a bold new social program with “But how are you going to pay for that?”, know that the person asking that is a liar, a fool, or both.
canadiansteve says
Nemo said
this, but this doesn’t even go far enough. It seems these people are willing to pay more themselves just to be sure that some other person doesn’t “get something they didn’t deserve.”
Hypothetical question to most Americans – you can have healthcare for $1000 per month which is comprehensive and no co-pays, and everyone is covered or you can have health care with co-pays, is less comprehensive and costs $1500 per month, but people that don’t pay don’t get care. It seems a shockingly large percentage of Americans choose option B
jimzy says
What’s wrong with a canceled USS Donald Trump? Keel hauling Trump under the Trump would be great Karma.