Did you know there are actually a bunch of low traffic, negligibly interesting, obsessive web sites out there dedicated to hating me? I know. Weird. I can understand disliking me, that’s not at all surprising…but to really, really detest me, and then spend hours scrutinizing every post and every comment on Pharyngula to find things you don’t like, and then to spend more time scribbling up poorly written rebuttals on the most obscure website you can create, well, that’s what I find incomprehensible.
What I do sort of understand, though, is the desire to be noticed. Invariably, these same sad obsessives who have been toiling away at an utterly neglected blog will write to me, demanding that I notice them.
I do.
Imagine how you would feel if someone spent months gathering shit and then sculpting it into a crude bust of yourself (well, they say it’s you…but it’s more like a lump of sagging sludge), and then unveiled it to you and declared their intent to expand it into a monumental equestrian statue, because they hate you so much. “Look at me, look at me!” they scream.
OK, look at “Bob Jones”.
Hello, Mr. Myers. To avoid wasting any of your time, I will now inform you that this is an email from one of your detractors. You may stop reading this now and delete it if you wish.
However, if you are curious as to what I have to say, let me first make a few things clear.
I don’t like you. In fact, I think you’re a downright horrible person with very few redeeming qualities. I find myself disagreeing with a great many of the views and opinions you express on your blog, and I find some of them downright abhorrent. However, I am not the kind of person who would resort to threats or petty flaming directed at you (what would that accomplish, after all?).
I simply wrote this to let you know that, for the past several months, I have been running a feature on my (admittedly very minimalist) tumblr, known as “The Pharnygula Round-Up”, in which I read each of your new blog entries and comment on them.
Said tumblr can be found at
http://feministsjwsarefullofshit.tumblr.com/
Don’t let the name fool you, it’s mostly a deliberately exaggerated, over-the-top version of my actual stance. I do try to be fair, and I will (reluctantly) admit whenever you actually have a point. I will also use harsh llanguage to call you out, but that is, again, partly an affectation particular to my “internet persona”, so to speak. People tend to find that kind of thing more entertaining, somehow. Nonetheless, all of the views and opinions stated on the site accurately represent my views at the time of writing.
You may, of course, feel free to completely disregard this e-mail (if you haven’t already), as you probably don’t care enough to visit my page (I know I wouldn’t, were I in your position). But I just figured that if I’m going to run an online feature dedicated to criticizing someone, they at least deserve to know about it.
In one of his posts, he says that he’s a 27-year-old virgin who has never even been on a date
. Guy, I can understand why. Stop hating feminists and SJWs, stop reading the terrible awful blog of a person you despise, get out and do something constructive with your life. You’re just the saddest case of futile self-loathing who has contacted me lately, and I’m honestly feeling sorry for you.
Yeah, the guy you hate so much is unimpressed by your efforts and is moved to pity. That’s the effect your blog has. You need to change, man.
In an interview, Sarah Silverman related how she was listening to Howard Stern one day. During a call-in segment, someone called up and started to rant about something crazy. Stern shut him down, and just as he was about to hang up, the caller became flustered and yelled, “I exist!”. I think most of the marginal bloggers you describe are the online equivalent.
I wish people hated me that much! It means you must be doing something right!!
“…But for me, it was Tuesday”
at least the email is devoid of ALL CAPS. that is something.
I think there’s enough to pitty, loathe and critisize about him without needing to comment on his personal affairs. I don’t feel sorry for him because he is 27 and is not sexually active, i feel sorry for him because he is very, very wrong…
Bob Jones, did you download some dodgy freeware which made Pharyngula your homepage? Are you being forced, by some other means, to read a blog which you obviously don’t value?
You make a good point. I’m not sure he needs any pity at all though. Maybe he is doing exactly what he wants to be doing. He comes across as rather stable, in a somewhat disgruntled way, and is basically saying that he just wants PZ to know that he is criticizing him in case PZ wants to respond. Either that or he is just trying to drive more traffic to his site.
Unfortunately, the Internet has become the modern equivalent of standing at your window in stained underwear, shouting abuse at strangers in the street. The good thing is that it also shows us how religion is being used as an excuse for anti-social behaviour and isn’t the force for good that the its proponents claim.
Not wishing to boast but I also have a stalker and obsessive hater, though I think I have to share him with several other Atheists (Sac Bag). He’s just had his 23rd (at least) Twitter account suspended, and he’s not even David Mabus.
Big fucking deal. Got him beat by a factor of two.
Of course, while I don’t even care to figure out what he thinks about that (though I can imagine, from the blog title), I don’t think it’s anything besides the life choices I made, nor am I particularly unhappy with it. Would have been nice, but many things would have been. I’ve decided on my priorities, that obviously will have consequences. And it’s not as if these surprised me any.
Most of all, I don’t think this justifies me shitting on the rest of mankind. It is a sad state of affairs that this seems even worth saying.
I am not bothered at all by the fact that he’s a , but it’s clear that he is. If he wants to change that, he’s not on a good path.
Of course, if he wants to someday be a 54-year-old virgin who has never even been on a date, then yeah, he should just keep doing what he’s doing.
Heh. This post immediately made me think of Deepak Chopra, who – while certainly not an unnoticed loner toiling away at unread tumblrs – does the same sort of thing, constantly throwing out “challenges” and even outright name-calling at Dawkins and Cox and other high-profile figures, in sad tweets that might as well just read “Look at me, guys! LOOK AT ME!”
Even the rich and famous want attention from their betters…
Rush Limbaugh is the same way. Unfortunately, he is like a mosquito which some people really want to listen to all that buzzing.
Wat? Dude… that’s not healthy. Hell, I’m a fan, and I don’t read each now blog entry. I’ve got shit to do, you know?
I’m having a hard time figuring out which opinions of yours he finds abhorrent, though… there have been times when I’ve disagreed with you, and times when I haven’t had a clue what you’re talking about (all that biolology stuff gets so sticky and weird when you go in depth) but what could be abhorrent? Well, like I already said, I don’t read every entry, so maybe you’re a secret fascist and you make sure to keep those tendencies hidden in the posts that you know I won’t read (because of your mind reading powers) but I can’t think of anything that anyone reasonable would consider abhorrent.
I think this is only going to encourage more people to email you their hate-blogs, by showing them a ticket for driving attention to their site. Can’t imagine how they’d get any exposure otherwise. Unless the anti-PZ blogs all share links amongst themselves.
Huh… I went to have a quick look at his page to see if he expanded on the abhorrent opinions (and, hey, who knows, maybe he would make a valid argument that would convince me to change muh evil SJW ways?) but it’s blocked by the library filter (“content of type violence”) which is a little off-putting. Mind you, a fairly large chunk of FreeThoughtBlogs is likewise blocked here (OMGlod! That’s where you’re hiding the fascism!!) so it may not mean anything.
I really can’t grasp why anybody would put so much effort into hating someone else. There is so much else that can be done that is constructive. I’m sure his hate vibes are felt by most people he meets.
Athywren,
Don’t bother, I clicked out of morbid curiosity but it is just plain boring and lazy.
Also, he hates bronies. Apparently.
That is really sad. I mean… on one hand I feel a large amount of contempt for someone that is anti-feminist and uses the term SJW as an insult. I mean… grow up… it’s just equality. You’ll be fine. On the other hand, in this case… the dude is just deeply pathetic. There’s a whole world out there, man. Get out and go explore. This obsession you have with a single blogger is just not healthy.
@1 reminded me of one of my favorite Stephen Crane poems:
A man said to the universe
“Sir, I exist!”
“However,” replied the universe,
“The fact has not created in me
“A sense of obligation.”
Why are so many of us desperate to be noticed? Sometimes it’s handled in a good way, by working hard to make something worthwhile for others to have or enjoy, but I don’t understand Bob’s motives very well. All I can think is that he has a crush on PZ.
Maybe he doesn’t want to be on a date?
Is it that hard to be on a date once in 27 years?
You’d thing between his 15th and 27th birthdays, somebody would have asked him on a date at least once, wouldn’t you?
May be he is proud of it and means “listen to what I have to say, for I am still pure”?
The first thought that came into my head was the opening scene in Bugs Bunny, when Wile E. Coyote introduces himself and tells Bugs Bunny to just give up, because it will be futile to resist. Only this Wile E. seems to know that he’s already lost the conflict.
redwood @#20
I think this is the best damn thing I have ever read and that it deserves repeating on a regular basis. I am going to look up Stephen Crane’s poetry.
@zenlike, 18
Well, I’ll be honest, I didn’t have high hopes; anti-feminists on tumblr have a habit of being pretty dull. Still, it’s always fun to pull the “wut…?” face from time to time.
That’s a really bad reason to go on a date…just because someone asked you to xD Surely you are aware that it is possible to be asked on a date and not be interested, right? I ask, half-jokingly, because i know people who seem to find that concept very strange…then again this same people seem to find the idea of spending two weeks without sex as some kind of inhumane torture that must be ended at any cost by fucking anyone who’d let you.
To clarify, he said he has ” never been on a date”, he literally meant that he has never been on top of that particular kind of Middle Eastern fruit. It’s a superstitious, purity thing, like aversion to Social Justice, and the concept of virginity.
@azhael, #25
You’re right. However… Out of curiosity… At least once… Unless “date” implies stuff I am not aware of.
I’ll look it up.
From “Star Trek Generations”
[Data has just had an emotion chip installed, finds a drink to be unpleasant, and makes a face]
Guinan: It looks like he hates it.
Data: That’s it — I hate it! I hate this! It is revolting!
Guinan: More?
Data: Please!
“Bob Jones”: “Yay! Traffic! So many people! (Why won’t any of them date me?)”
Looks like the tumblr has commentary on every single Pharyngula post, even if that means a lot of comments like:
I was going to say that he’s not obligated to comment on things they don’t care about, but suddenly I realized that everything is meaningless, and we are just rearranging little squares of light while sitting on an agglomeration of dust hurtling through space. So I say, carry on.
Also, for anyone interested, the context of the virgin quote is:
@Athywren, Social Justice Weretribble
Infidel! I cast thee out!
That’s what I luerv about my psychological profile of Introvert. I have no need to be seen by others (sometimes scared to be seen such) and from this I extrapolate that Extroverts have a Need to ‘be seen’ and fear not being noticed. So seeing someone else get all the attention and discussions, scares them witless. And being extro’s means they gotta tell everyone how that “other” is stealing the spotlight and hogging the stage, and “watch me more and more, don’t look at that guy, just me…”
But I just don’t understand that attitude; just fabricating it whole cloth and all. My reaction to seeing that someone I dislike is still writing; is to continue to ignore his writing, read stuff I like, etc. EG I hate, hate Rush, and Billy ORLY; but do I continue to watch them and DVR every appearance of them? No, I just pass by and let them rant to their viewers while I go on to something else. That is the TRUE meaning of Freeze Peach is it not: Listening is not demanded for Peach to be Freeze, eh?
You know, when somebody dedicates a great lot of their energy hating feminsits and “SJW”s, they’re most likely simply an asshole.
If they spend that time and energy on one person and their blog, they most likely have an issue that goes beyond that
I took a look at his site. I didn’t read very far, but he seemed to agree with most of your points (as he presented them.)
He’s not much of an HTML whiz either: Stray DOCTYPE; stray START tag; duplicate HEAD tags; and much, much more. (Or could that be Tumblr’s fault?)
Eh. Hasn’t the nerve to engage with the Horde, so posts somewhere else where he can be in charge. BFD.
@Moggie (@3)
Obscure Raul Julia quote FTW!
It’s a damn shame that his last movie was that piece of shit.
That’s okay, PZ, we love you!
If he’s as antisocial as he comes across as being, he very easily could not know anyone of compatible gender and orientation who might ask him out. Also, there are still plenty of places where the man is still expected to ask the woman out.
FDR asked to be judged by the quality of the enemies he had made. PZ, I don’t think this guy’s helping you by that criterion.
The mere fact that he would choose “Bob Jones” as his nom de merde tells you a lot.
I did not realize that there was a real life equivalent to Mac from “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia”. Now I know that there is.
Moggie wins.
In this society where men are generally expected to be the askers of out, it’s not that far-fetched.
I wonder how many of these obsessives then claim that you’re irrelevant.
I liked his identify-posts-by-a-randomly-assigned-number-good-luck-figuring-what-I’m-talking-about approach. I think even I can try my hand at blog critique, in this case.
1. Hmmm…. no.
2. Well, that wasn’t bad. Not bad at all.
3. Faschistenschwein.
4. Meh.
#34 caseloweraz
It looks an awful lot like Tumblr’s default theme, I’m afraid.
Okay. *clicks*
The “Bob Jones” I can think of are these; the generations of Bob Jones that ran Bob Jones University and a 1960s era Klan leader.
Am I supposed to know what those things mean? I though html was the em, b, i, strong and a href=”” stuff. And of course the dreaded blockqutoe.
PatrickG @31:
Your link is borked.
****
I thought about checking out his Tumblr page to see how awful it is, but given his whining in the email to PZ, and how much its clear he wants to be noticed, I think I’ll pass on the chance to give his page another view.
And
Self awareness or consistency is too much to ask for.
Never having been on a date isn’t a character flaw; thinking it’s worth announcing to complete strangers suggests that he thinks it is, if not a character flaw, a big deal.
Sili #47
HTML is what websites are written in, basically. The tags available to us here as commenters are a very limited part of what’s available. caseloweraz was noting that apparently, this person’s page has the equivalent of borkquotes actually written into the page architecture.
Bob Jones got a university named after him. How many of you can say that?
People who make time-consuming hobbies out of their pet hates are pretty much playing with their own shit. Yep. Sitting in a corner, cradling some soft, misshapen turd in his hands, turning it over and saying “whoa, this one smells bad. ”
Back away slowly, don’t make eye contact.
I feel for the guy, but he’s blaming others and not taking responsibility for his situation, which seems to be part of the problem.
what’s it supposed to fool me into thinking?
“I’m not really an asshole, I just play one on TV”
@ Tony!
Curses. Well, too lazy to go find the right one again. Was Reverend Lovejoy from The Simpsons yelling at Homer in the “Duffless” episode.
Sage advice too often ignored.
We would add that life is too short for so much negativity, and a tendency to focus on and judge others rather than self is a very unflattering trait.
That’s the beauty of the thing. It’s never too late to make a change.
I started a blog eleven months ago and some of the posts were pretty good so I was looking forward to a big readership and lots of comments. So far no comments, and the only visitors have been Google and Yahoo web crawlers.
Women might be more interested in going out with you if you expanded your conversation beyond how much you hate PZ Myers.
Bob. Stop blogging and get some exercise. Play some pool, or something. Life is too fucking short to waste it on this sort of thing.
“What did you do in your twenties?”
If you can’t answer that without being totally ashamed, then do something different in your twenties.
Oh dear, that tumblr is embarassing. I’m not sure who he thinks is going to go to the trouble of sitting with his blog and Pharyngula, and work out which of his often vague, numbered posts relates to what’s on here.
So strange that with all the awfulness and oppression in the world, it’s PZ Myers that really inspires him to hatred. Not mass murdering dictators and terrorist groups, not tycoons grabbing more and more of the world’s wealth and fucking up the environment, not homophobic churches, not racist police slaughtering black people – no, a biologist with a blog who’s pretty vociferous about equality issues. Bizarre.
I guess it’s reflected in his posting of ‘SJW bingo’, featuring squares with such things as ‘ableism’, ‘transphobia’ and ‘racism’. That’s the mindset we’re dealing with – one in which talking about these problems is apparently a worse thing than the problems themselves.
Well, no. That’s not how it works. :-| Besides, what makes you think he’s attracted to everyone who asks?
It rather sounds like he’s massively upset by it – and blames the and
…That sounds scarily realistic, actually.
Some people should “get out and do” anything at all.
Kite flying, playing the glockenspiel, miniature or model or vintage trains, guerilla knitting or gardens, kite making, growing herbs/bonsai/carnivorous plants and maybe sign up for related magazines and clubs to meet people who think about anything-but-you.