I’ve decided that this is how I want to commute to work from now on.
Via The Kid Should See This, a fabulous collection of freaky cool videos.
Pharyngula
Evolution, development, and random biological ejaculations from a godless liberal
I’ve decided that this is how I want to commute to work from now on.
Via The Kid Should See This, a fabulous collection of freaky cool videos.
Even if what follows is true, or is supposed to be funny, any comment beginning like that is going to be perceived as obnoxious.
hth
Therrin,
I figured it went this way:
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Evolution in action: Monsanto makes GM crop with “integrated” Bt pesticide. Bugs grow resistent to pesticide. Bugs spread out from fields with Monsanto crops, hurting farmers with ordinary crops relying on similar pesticide. Monsanto says “OK, now we will make yet another GM crop with some other pest-fighting ability”. Monsanto stocks increase in value. Farmers lose money.
Researchers identify insect resistance to Bt pesticide http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-insect-resistance-bt-pesticide.html
GMO corn falls prey to bugs it was supposed to thwart http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-gmo-corn-falls-prey-bugs.html
Attack of the Monsanto Superinsects http://motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2011/08/monsanto-gm-super-insects
What? What? Unforeseen ecological and evolutionary consequences of first-wave profit-motivated genome engineering?
*gasp*
Why, there’s no way that that could have been, y’know, foreseen.
I feel like helll… I wasn’t feeling too good yesterday and now I’m feeling worse. I also need to get double-sided tape cause Snip doesn’t seem to understand that when I pull him out of the spot under my computer desk eight hundred times, it means I don’t want him to lay down there. (Too many cords, it gets really hot down there and I don’t want him to nibble on anything and get shocked. Plus I’ll probably kick him.)
In dream territory, I had another dream about a transitioned me going on a date with a firefighter… and then Snip woke me up, and I lost my cute firefighter :( Stupid cat I was having sexy dreaam!! (But again I looked good, I totally need to find that dress!!!)
Set: 54 seconds (cat distracted me or it’d be faster.)
Gonna go make tea and curl in my computer chair…
Das ist aber ein schlimmer Gedanke und eine schlimme Vorstellung.
As a German native speaker, that didn’t come too hard on me, what got me was the sheer number of possible endings that would require you to know exactly what declination you were in.
OK, what really got me was the fact that it’s not used and I simply have a hard time learning languages not using them.
I remember being tortured in school with tasks of endless memorizing and it just didn’t work.
I later found my own ways to remember things, but none of them were any help wih Latin.
It also didn’t help that I chose the hard way and learned 6 school-years wirth of 4-5 hrs a week in 3 weeks. But I wouldn’t have managed to endure 3 full semesters otherwise.
@Monsanto
Is there anybody who’s surprised by this?
@Bachman
God really must have given up about Europe, considering that there are hardly any “real christians” living here.
Oh, forgot:
Katherine, if cats are like children, then Snip has learned that sneaking under your desk is the perfect way to get your attention.
BTW I’m absolutely convinced that transitioned Katherine will be gorgeous. I’d already murder to have your legs
PZ: “I live across the street from my office. I’d take the scenic route.”
Catapult + net? Cable car?
Hi Kitty
It sounds as if your kitteh is looking for safe warm place to call home within your home. We went with a solution like this (Link to cat climber), which takes up about half of our tiny lounge. At least the kittehz are happy. And they can get into the ceiling bulkhead from where they peruse the world with cynical derision.
Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives and I’ll decline.
Sympathies to SallyStrange and Strange Boyfriend :(
By common accord between the two of them, daughterSpawn is about to officially split up with her (mutually) first ever proper boyfriend, after a long two years (they’re only teenagers), as they have both just got into uni and will be leaving in a few weeks – for different unis in different parts of the country. They’re probably right that it won’t work long distance when they’ve both just moved to new places and have to find their feet with all new people while coping with the first taste of undergraduate lessons and student living – but part of me can’t help feeling sad; they’ve treated each other pretty well all this time ::sigh::
Why does it seem that one can keep a strong friendship going at a distance almost indefinitely, but not necessarily a romantic/sexual liaison?
Chas,
Not exactly the response I was aiming for. Oh well.
Spawnphontes has just arrived back from Melbourne. Melbourne is now in the news (Link – top liveable cities) for the very best reasons. Congratulations to antipodian pharyngulites.
And … it’s another, “We’re number One!” moment of mormon madness for Utah.
The University of Utah’s NPR radio station, KUER, carried a story about Utah’s college students. Turns out Utah is number one in percentage of females who begin college, but do not finish.
Link to KUER podcast.
Women who do graduate from college in Utah receive degrees in lower-paying occupations.
A survey found that only 39 percent of Utahans felt that women should have the same level of education as males. Utah women toe the line, agreeing that men should attain a higher level of education.
News story and more details here: http://www.usustatesman.com/utah-women-falling-behind-1.2335274
Prime example of Mormon Madness — they refuse to let members see their own records.
The Stake President blog is satire, but he bases his satire on real events and on real LDS Church policies. Here’s his post about The Danger of Members Seeing Their Own Membership Records:
The comments below the post are hilarious, and scary:
Kitty
If you start the training now, you can teach Snip to sit on your shoulders.
or you could get a snugli.
or resign yourself to having a cat on your lap every time you make a lap.
When I saw this in my Onion RSS feed, I thought they might have screwed up and put an actual news headline in.
Tea Party Congressman Calls For Tax Breaks To Put Out Raging Wildfire In District
Don’t ask me, I’ve been with somebody I only see at the weekends all my adult life.
If you accept it, see the advantages it has, trust each other and get used to it, it can definetly work out.
I suspect if they were going to see each other every weekend or thereabouts they’d give it a go – but as it is, they’d only see each other at spring break, santaclaus break/New Year and in the summer.
Me, I’d be quite happy to have a setup something like what you describe!
@Giliell Yeah, I found it much easier to learn once I was in a class where it was spoken. Unfortunately, I’ve lost most of it since with no one to practise with.
@ Lynna
Are they are trying to create a state within a state? The mormon state taking on all the predilections of a police state though.
If they told the truth for a single day, they would die. (Nothing
unusual for a religion there.)
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[mormon profile] I have tried logging in in Hong Kong too. No luck. Either they have a server problem, or they are lying, and all the “profiles” are just marketing ruses.
(The situation this side of the pond: I have seen quite a few mormon missionaries in Hong Kong. None in Shenzhen that I can recall. Some or other evangelist got stopped at the border the other day with a large suitcase full of bibles. Unfortunately I couldn’t hang around to see them impounded. In Wuhan I stumbled upon a “coffee house and language club” near the university that was completely infested with goddists. It would appear that under the pretense of teaching a language over a cup of coffee the less scrupulous are trying to flog their religious message. These guys obviously have no problems with misleading people to push their agenda.)
Opposablethumbs:
Well, I was more speaking in general terms. I think people are too afraid of this idea to really give it a try.
Your daughter and her friend are still quite young, so who knows, but maybe one day they come back to each other knowing that this is the person they want to be with because they are right for each other and not because they were highschool sweathearts.
Assumption of facts not in evidence. :-) In the internet age, I don’t think it’s necessarily impossible (or even excessively difficult) to maintain a relationship at a distance. I know lots of people who have done so successfully. But YMMV, of course.
Just thought to share this with all the astronomical kitteh lover’s on TET:
MeerKAT passes first test &
KAT-7 scopes out Centaurus
(So good to hear good news out of South Africa, rather than more idiocity from Malema.
Gilliell, I think you’re right – and maybe it takes a certain amount of (age and) experience to be able not to get tied up in knots and to take a longer view. Anyway, whether they ever get back together or not, I certainly hope they stay friends!
Destroyed Vermont bridges: :(
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*hugs* You know where to come, when the time comes.
Good news about the brakes, though. My very “favoritest” vehicle-related nightmares begin with malfunctioning brakes.
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Nonsense! This is why there are trash compactors.
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Because their squelchy bits aren’t in proximity; meanwhile, there are probably endless other, more readily available, squelchy bits close at hand, some of them with acceptible personalities attached.
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This is not necessarily a good thing. It works well when kitteh is small, and is incredibly cyoot, but having a full-grown kitteh launch floor-to-shoulder and then apply the brakes may cause a hull breach, to say nothing of ruining shirts.
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Just completely out of the blue: does anyone know what the story is with Comradde PhysioProffe? All of his non-recipe posts have the appearance of being written while completely hammered.
Ah. This is where you must remember Inspector Clouseau and Cato.
Walton:
You get a clear no-yes from me.
Surely, the internet and modern transportation have made things easier. But some problems remain.
Sex is frankly a problem. Spontaneous hook-ups require a lot of planning.
Family is a problem.
And what is a huge problem is that the person I love and trust most in this world isn’t here to keep me warm tonight and give me hugs because I’m worried about my gran.
I know if I called him he’d be here in 90 minutes, and that’s a great comfort, and I don’t think I could do it if he was overseas.
@Walton #523 – well I think they might find themselves texting and facebooking a lot … but they’ve decided to call it an official split as they’ll see each other so rarely (and perhaps because they know they’ll need all their energy for grappling with the whole living-away-from-home-for-the-first-time thing). Their decision – I just can’t help feeling a bit sad about it, though (because they’re both really sad about it). Still, worse things happen at sea …
:-(
What a peculiar speechpattern Bernie Sanders has. His Pros. Ody is allhiggle. Dy. Piggledy.
And at the end of the day he tends to go forward and speak in clichés.
Midnight Rambler
Yes.
This has been tonight’s edition of Simple Answers to Simple Questions™, thank you for playing.
Not related to anything in particular, but I have something I’ve wanted to debate/get opinions on on for a while and this seems like the best place for some intelligent responses!
I believe that it is immoral to have any restrictions on immigration to any country. I am lucky enough to have been born in the UK. This means I am afforded tremendous opportunities in life such as quality education (for free) quality healthcare (for free) a relatively prosperous economy in which to seek employment / business opportunities etc. etc.
I see no reason why someone who happens to have emerged from a different womb on a different continent should be denied these opportunities. I also don’t believe I’ve ever read or heard any justification for restricting immigration, other than ‘it would make things worse for those of us who are lucky enough already to be here’.
Am I wrong / missing something / stupid???
No
There are several people here who share that opinion.
What’s often missed is the fact that most people actually quite like it where they live (except for cases of war and stuff). If they have the possibility there to make a living, most of them stay there.
So if our governments really wanted to reduce imigration they’d do something against poverty in those countries most imigrants come from. It would probably be even cheaper than “fortress Europe”. BUt they don’t, which leads me to the conclusion that what they actually want is illegal imigration. People without rights, living in the grey areas, cheap labour, handy scapegoats.
Occasionally, I get an email meant for people in NIFC (National Interagency Fire Center). Some are sad, some are quite amusing.
Back in 2006 or -07, I got an email, with an attached response. The GOP Department of Agriculture was concerned that spending at wildfires was getting out of hand. For an example, the DC political appointee noted that, from 2000 to 2005, the fuel costs for every fire had tripled and that all Incident Commanders need to bring fuel costs back down to the 2000 levels. The attached response wondered if the Political Appointee in question ever had to buy gasoline since, from 2000 to 2006, the price per gallon of fuel had, approximately, tripled.
Oh, Walton, I meant to say this earlier, but if you’re ever in need of a monarchy fix, you don’t have to go all the way back home. Just come on up to Canada. (Or, I suppose, Turks & Caicos or Bermuda.)
SallyStrange,
I am sorry to hear that. Amicable doesn’t mean easy, but it sure beats the alternative. I hope you will forgive my celebration of that brightness. Hugs if you need ’em, and if the freak out comes don’t feel any worry that people here won’t understand.
Fixing them (neuter or spay) would, in the long run, solve the whole monarchy problem (the problem being, what the fuck are they supposed to actually do, other than providing a great deal of comedic ammunition, accumulating money at an obscene rate, and, generally, ascting like morons).
Opposable thumbs,
I can understand your sadness, I can also understand their decision, but I wonder how much it is due to being sold an ideal of relationship that doesn’t truly exist? My high school sweetheart went to a different school for university, given it was only about four hours for us to cross that divide, but it meant about once a month to see one another. This was before either of us had the net savvy to communicate by way of email, so the odd expensive phone call was how we stayed in touch. A good relationship isn’t just about volume or pervasive proximity, but the quality of the time that is shared. We enjoyed each other and made time to see each other because of it.
Where I am going is that we were constantly told that long distance relationships don’t work, that we would find new people at school and move on, that we would grow up and not even recognize each other, etc. I think it a shame to decide ahead of time that this is so rather than going to the different schools and experiencing how the relationship evolves once there.
Ugh. My cat likes to sit on shoulders. It’s like having a heavy furry parrot. I’m always “What do you think you’re doing??” as she’s making her way up there.
Exactly!!!!!
I think that could be part of it, certainly, but another part is probably that it’s much easier to sell fortress Europe to the voters than it is to sell a hike in foreign aid – or anything that even looks like money being “given away” abroad.
Now I wished I could have that as a computer shortcut, too
Good night, everybody
I googled “furry parrot”.
The internets be wondrous strange.
Chigau:
I always forget about Google when things like ‘furry parrot’ come up. Then I Google it and get”
and I realize that there is a REASON I don’t Google things. Rule whateer-the-fuck-the-number-is raises it’s bizarre head and, well, um.
Brother Ogvorbis – “Fixing them (neuter or spay) would, in the long run, solve the whole monarchy problem ”
What, are you bored? There may be people on this forum that object to that and much rending and gnashing will result.
I’m getting some popcorn;-)
All Hail Tpyos: whateer = whatever
I thought you meant whate’er.
Y’know poetical-like.
One of my many personality disorders is that I cannot resist a set up. Someone tosses it out there and I’m all over it like scratches on eyeglasss.
Forum? I thought this was a thread. When did it become a forum? And why wasn’t I informed?
True. But, if so, it’s not like I’ll really defend my statement. After all, defending a joke would be like being the lawyer for a Republican.
Rule 34 my ass. I hate Urban Dictionary. Ninety percent of it is a bunch of dumb shit nobody’s ever actually done (or, if it has been done, it’s been done so fucking infrequently that there sure as hell isn’t a consistent term for it) that some dumb kid wrote because s/he thinks it’s fucking funny.
It’s like listening to the teenagers on the bus talk loudly about how wasted they got and how much sex they had on the weekend thinking they’re going to scandalise the rest of us. I’d tell them to shut it, but I don’t want to draw attention to myself and the fact that I’m carrying two ounces of weed and a vibrator in my briefcase.
Brownian,
Hot date with a baggage checker later tonight?
Brwonian:
I knwo that many Urban Dictionary terms are bullshit. But the image was still nto e something I needed right after dinner.
Brownian:
Sorry. Mispelling another’s ‘nym is egregiously bad. I apoligize.
“Knwo” and “nto e” I are in honour of Tpyos.
So before dinner would have suited better?
Yesterday, in the LRT station, I listened to a teenager praying aloud to god to get home on time, “please god, that’s all I’m asking…”
Oh, hell, no. Then I wouldn’t have been able to eat dinner. And before you ask, during would have been just as bad. I’m pretty open minded, but I’m disturbed that someone could even come up with this.
Ogvorbis – “Someone tosses it out there and I’m all over it like scratches on eyeglasss.”
All hail Tpyos! BTW, if that’s original, I’m stealing it. If it’s not, I’m still stealing it, just from the original owner.
Ogvorbis – “After all, defending a joke would be like being the lawyer for a Republican.”
***snork-chortle*** The Kid Is Hot Tonight!
Okay, I’m not really carrying those things now. But I did once mistakenly bring them to the office (I had them with me and didn’t end up making it home before I came in to work. The pot really stunk, too. I couldn’t open my bag all day.) The point is, fuck you, obnoxious bus kids. Go front to someone who gives a shit. I’m trying to read my goddamn Kindle here.
But I wonder if that would work. “Hey, baby: what say you and I forget about the cocaine in my carry-on, and I show you my idea of a full body scan?”
Sailor,
Your link has some borking.
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Ogvorbis,
Nay, I wouldn’t suggest eating while surfing anyways, your keys get sticky.
Was dinner a cream soup garnished with dill and shredded carrot?
No worries about the tpyos. I understand you’ve experienced some severe trauma.
You’re in Calgary, right? Is the west end LRT extension work that bad?
That may be an original. I’ve never used it before and I don’t recall reading it or hearing it. Steal away.
Who you callin’ a kid? you whippersnapper!
And if you think I’m Googling ‘sticky keys’ or any variation thereof, you’re nuts.
No. It was canned tomato soup, spiked with course ground pepper and olive oil, with homemade croutons and brie crostinis. Sorry.
I don’t know – a clean break when going to college can be a very good thing. I dealt with several friends in college who went still dating their high school sweetheart, and they were usually moping around, and sad because the sweetheart wasn’t there, and spent their Friday nights on the phone instead of out getting to know people. It was like they were only half there most of the time. It sounds to me like the kids are being realistic.
Well, God does seem to be remarkably good at micromanaging, while ignoring the big picture.
Perhaps this kid will even be rewarded for not asking to get laid. Or praying to not be pregnant after getting laid.
I borked a link , I haz sorry.
I’m even sorrier to link to Loverboy. My excuse is Ogvorbis is hot tonight.
Carlie,
I sure wouldn’t want to see anyone playing that game either. Moping about their current situation and/or idealizing the past aren’t healthy. I was just thinking that if it’s not going to work, let it fall because of that, don’t do a pre-empt in case it doesn’t work. Obviously, I am not in possession of all the details that went into their decision, and I can well appreciate that they have made an adult decision rather than insisting that they are special or immune to growth or some such nonsense.
The Sailor:
I clicked your link. I think I prefer the borked version. Bleah.
Churchill Station, Edmonton. I think she was performing for her friend because they had both cut class.
At least she wasn’t kneeling.
Sili:
Okay, I’ll try that again – can someone explain what the story is?
*hugs for Classical Cipher and Cath the Canberra Cook*
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So, finally… from subthread 248, which I’ve caught up with till comment 450…
Well, given Tianyulong, I can’t guarantee the opposite anymore…
:-(
Win.
As far as I’ve been paying attention, which isn’t far, stress has no effect on my appetite. Nothing other than infections seems to.
:-D
Parfait, quoi. :-)
:-( :-( :-(
*hug*
*lavender pillows*
You do know what musculus means…? :-)
If you eat enough meat, you’ll have enough salt. That’s not at all a problem.
I don’t think I could easily eat that much meat, though. I’m more one of those starch-eaters like Paranthropus. But not everyone is like me.
Of the latter? That’s seriously sad. :-( How can I become one of the former?
I’ve read the woman should absolutely be on top for precisely this reason.
(My e-mail provider sometimes reprints articles from Mens’ Health Magazine. There are gems of bizarrity in there.)
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
That depends very strongly on what type of forest it is.
Nooooooo… I thought there was going to be Marjanović at Rhinebeck!!!
Wow. I had no idea that they had found evidence of feathers in marginocephalians. If I remember correctly, Nodosarus and Ankylosaurs are on the same part of the tree as the Marginocephalians, right? So you may be correct.
Speaking strictly about naturally occurring forest fires (not forest management fires or fires used to clear forests), can you give me an example? I guess I tend to be Americo-centric on this shit.
Of course! You weather one hurricane, and along comes the news that there’s another brewing. Whether it actually hits the area or not is one thing – the mere fact that it could, well, nyaaaaaargh! *headdesk*
Oh yeah, hi everyone. Got power back about three hours ago, which must mean it’s here to stay.
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I thought Rhode Island got it bad, sounds like Vermont is neck-and-neck with. I don’t suppose the covered bridges could be rebuilt? No scratch that, it’d kind of take away the historical attraction I guess.
As to the whiners who commented on the video…and you don’t watch ANY movies that have profanity in them, right? Yeah, that’s what I though, you pack of prissies. Why doe sit surprise anyone that people swear when they see something awful happen?
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Hugs and lots of chocolate/vodka/whatever to those who need ’em. Skimming the thread doesn’t tell the whole story, but it told me enough to learn that some people have been having some sucky days lately.
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Re: #425-
I think many evolutionists interact with other humans quite well. Much better than some Christians do (and I’ll wager Willis and his like-minded ilk would fit that category).
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And now I’m off to do more stuff, since I no longer have to worry about candles burning down to nothing.
Well…. tried to take care of the kittens today. Bubba managed to get all three of them, plus the Mister into the little enclosure we’ve been feeding them in and zipped em in. Waited some 6 hrs for the Humane people to come by and then the Mister and one of the kittens escaped :-( They gave us a trap, but I don’t think we’ll see either of our escapees for a day or two.
theophontes @521
Sounds all too familiar. Mormon missionaries used to employ equally deceptive techniques, especially in China and in Japan.
Here’s a description from an ex-mormon that served his LDS mission in Japan:
Here’s the discussion thread from which I excerpted the above details:
http://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon555.htm
*ATTENTION ATTENTION*
…
I proudly wish to announce that my daughter walked for the first time today.
*Applause, now hide the silverware, as the mobility has just increased greatly.
Great, soon she’ll be jumping canyons in high winds. Ask Og about that.
S’far as I know, there will be. That was Og talking to DDMFM.
Great segment on the radio (Triple J) just now: singer/songwriter of Brisbane band Ball Park Music was just talking about how reading The God Delusion helped him all the way to ditching his belief in God, and then he was inspired to write a song celebrating life – and here it is: It’s nice to be alive
I already really liked this song – I like it even more now!
Congrats, Mr. Fire, and welcome to the world of OHMYGAWDHOWDIDSHEGETTHAT.
Oh, shit, are you in trouble now. Seriously. Childproof a foot higher than you think she can reach. Now. Because she will get into things you cannot imagine. Girl, at the age of 12 to 14 months, climbed onto a table and dove into a large bowl of potato salad. During a party.
Heh. Heh. Heh. Have fun.
Yay Mr. Fire!!!!
Brother Ogvorbis wrote:
Newsflash: Not only are atheists eating babies (well, toddlers) but they’re breeding them to commit suicide in bowls of side dishes to make it even easier!
Yay Mr. Fire! Now start locking stuff up because she’ll have her hands on it and running before you can say, “peachy keen.”
So, despite the alarming hovering of her father, Mr. Fire, the Little Spark has decided to walk.
And to fall often on her padded bum, a short distance to be sure.
Mr. Fire, give up now. Your daughter rules.
At the time, I considered myself a universal deist. I didn’t admit/discover/realize my atheism until I was about 40, only five years ago.
I’m not vegan, but if I were, I would say this:
“Seitan is my Motor”
Goddamnit
Guess I’ll just go downstairs and finish up all that popcorn I made for the Hurric’n.
You’re a seitanist? Damn. You never know.
Of course, Girl is vegan and she is a serious cereal killer (one to two boxes per week, with the concommitant almond milk). And she also commits hummuside (she can go through four to six ounces per day).
Thanks, folks.
They got me a long time ago.
I has a disappoint.
A beyoootiful set-up like that, and you passed up the chance to go for “why wasn’t I inforumed?”
*shakes head sadly*
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*applause* and *confetti*.
Be warned that some enterprising children can and will construct ramps out of stuffed animals in order to maximise their grabbing-things-you-thought-were-out-of-reach pleasure. And run away with them, giggling hysterically.
</PSA>
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My daughter’s 15, and I approve this message.
A cat joke for the hoard.
The stuttering cat
A teacher is explaining biology to her 4th grade students.
“Human beings are the only animals that stutter,” she said.
A little girl raises her hand. “I had a kitty-cat who stuttered.”
The teacher, knowing how precious some of these stories could become, asked the girl to describe the incident.
“Well,” she began, “I was in the back yard with my kitty and the Rottweiler that lives next door got a running start and before we knew it, he jumped over the fence into our yard!”
“That must have been scary,” said the teacher.
“It sure was,” said the little girl.
“My kitty raised her back, went “Ffffff!, Ffffff!, Ffffff,
but before she could say “Fuck!,” the Rottweiler ate her!
The teacher had to leave the room.
Mr. Fire
*horror story*
The Mom was sitting on the toilet when her newly walking Offspring strolled in carrying the biggest, sharpest knife in the drawer.
This had been obtained by the Offspring opening said drawer (over hir head), lifting out the knife (over hir head) and diaper-waddling to the bathroom carrying the knife.
*/horror story*
Nothing bad happened.
Your life just got way more interesting.
Where are all the threadizens? Only two comments since ten o’clock? Hmmm, is this thing on? (crickets)
Caine and Kamaka are probably having an awesome time right now, and are going to the dino museum tomorrow.
I am not. I haz a small jealous.
Brother Og @571:
It’s extremely bad for Hawaiian forests. Instead of having a closed canopy and open space underneath, they often have a relatively open canopy but a dense understory of shrubs and smaller trees. All (including the larger canopy trees) are very vulnerable to being killed quickly in a fire. With every fire that comes through an area, more and more native cover gets replaced with alien plants; mostly fire-adapted grasses, which both suppress native plant recovery and carry the next fire better. More open areas also allow easier access for goats and cattle that prefer to eat the softer native plants.
You could argue that most of the reason why fire is so bad is due to the effects people have had with bringing in all this crap. It would have still been bad without people though, just extremely rare, and it would have eventually (after 100+ years) recovered to native forest again instead of alien grassland.
This is baffling me today:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2011/08/is-an-ad-featuring-a-battered-woman-offensive-or-artistic.html
it also has a really stupid poll.
SQB,
Thank you, thank you. I owe you one (1) internetz, or at least one Pharyngulaz, since current limits on my time have made it daunting to even start reading threads, knowing the jungles that lie ahead. Now maybe I can catch up a bit. I should have thought to check the wiki, but the gumbys made my brain hurt so much.
Sili @ 531,
I think Bernie talks that way to keep from blinding people with his intellect and cogent grasp of reality. Protective coloration. Even in Vermont, it must be hard for someone really smart and sensible to get elected.
Josh, glad you’re on high ground. I’m heartbroken about the bridges, too. I hope they’re well enough documented that they can be rebuilt/restored. It’s not the same; wooden structures tend to be replaced piecemeal over long periods of time, though, and it’s better to have them than not.
When I went to the wiki, I noticed that an important recipe was somehow overlooked, for Hungarian Mushroom Soup. It was posted by nigelTheBold way long ago, and it looked so good, and the following conversation about umami was so enticing, that I bought a pound of mushrooms that weekend. It is fabulously delicious, and I should have said something at the time, but I was lurking, and, y’know. So thank you, nigelTheBold, and thank you, Pharyngulites, for being here and making the world a better place, with food, conversation, and principles.
Because everything is better with lasers
@ Lynna
I can see how just such a ruse should work in China too, for similar reasons. Every fine attribute of the average chinese student could be manipulated: friendliness, openness, a strong desire to learn, a desire to avoid conflict, a school background very respectful of authority, … there are just so many opportunities for the religious con-artist. And then one could also use the fear of losing face to make the mark feel guilty.
On the other hand (as also noted in your article), how long does the influence extend? They will likely just as happily drop the religious drivel over time once the novelty wears off. Aside from a few Buddhists, practically everyone I know in China is atheist. There is however a tendency for belief in ghosts for example, even among the nominally atheist. (Though many people follow old traditions without actually believing in ghosts.)
Anecdote: I have heard that many of the evangelists arriving in Wuhan not only speak Putonghua on arrival, but Wuhanese. ( N’rubraaH! … impossible dialect) Strait into the linguistic breach and lying for jeebus from the instant the wheels squeal on the tarmac.
Mr.Fire – aww, lovely. Was she beaming from ear to ear at her cleverness? Or was it ‘concentrate face.’
bullofthewoods – excellent.
Congratulations to Mr. Fire!!! (and seconding, thirding, fourthing the advice to get all breakables and dangerous items (i.e. everything in your home that is smaller than a bus) to much higher ground than you thought. Go for the ceiling, stat! Or you’ll only have to move it all again five
minutesmonths later. Mobility can progress fast).Hope that SallyStrange and Strange Boyfriend are OK with how the separation works out for them (if not OK now, soon). Big sympathies.
Part of me thinks daughterSpawn and boyfriend are being realistic, part of me thinks they might be jumping the gun. But only they know, so I’m shutting up about it (to them, that is! Sorry, didn’t mean to bend your ears with it so much, just that Sally’s predicament put me in mind of them) Mainly I’m just sad that they’re sad that the decision is forced on them by circumstance (though I’m glad that neither of them compromised on which uni to apply to in the first place, but both simply went for the one they thought was the best fit for them and their subject)
@ Kitty
Apropos finding a comfortable place for Snip: House designed around cats. (Link). Good to see some architects have their priorities sorted.
It’s funny because it’s true : G-male, the perfect boyfriend (if you hate your privacy) (linky)
@theophontes:
Ehee, that’s wonderful. A bit over the top, but awesome nonetheless. I don’t have a house though, so I need to think small.
@Beatrice:
Oh lordy that was funny.
“Google… We’re really good listeners.”
Hello there
*gnash*
The little one made me eat a peice of choclate cake for breakfast, I will have to suffer all day for this.
Congratulations.
Mine now reaches the door handle which means that the toilet as my last safe place is gone…
Kids, they’re such fun, especially now with one of them asleep and the other one in kindergarten.
But the first steps weren’t when things became “interesting”. The ability to crawl and drag yourself up on the furniture provided the same possibilities for mischief long before.
Without wanting to pry into the details of your private life, would you mind revealing the background of this unusual (in the most literal sense of the word) arrangement?
What, your toilet has no lock on its door?
No problem. It’s easy, he works in a city neither of us wants to really live in or raise our children in a region we don’t particularly like.
He never moved his centre of living from here to there. He’s from the place we live in now (small world, his gran is a schoolmate of my gran). When we first met he’d already been working there for over 10 years, still he spent every day off “at home”. Which is a rather usual phenomenon.
So we have everything here, our families, our friends.
Problem is, he’s a highly qualified professional working in the chemical industry for one of the biggest chemical companies worldwide. They pay rather well and there are simply no jobs for somebody like him here.
The distance is just big enough that commuting makes no sense, so he’s got a small flat there and comes home on Friday evenings.
It has a key. That key is safely put away since daughter #1 locked herself in.
@Giliell:
I have the same situation at my apartment, except that it’s a tiny feline invading my privacy rather than a tiny human.
If I don’t open the door, Snip will sit and meow like mad… Then I let him in and he just kind of watches. It’s eerie.
Of course, you do know how to get back at him, don’t you?
@SQB:
Yes, but I don’t want him to use my bed in protest. Cats need their privacy or they get fussy.
(OT) Patti Smith collects Polar Music Prize in Stockholm Aug 30
http://www.thelocal.se/33550/20110503/
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ERV at Scienceblogs has an interesting explanation of how (some) measles variants can be used to kill (some) cancers.
Might as well install a catflap in the toilet door and put his box in there (actually, that makes sense to me (a non-cat person, so YMMVW), since it’s just one place in the house to stink up (why people put the litter box in the kitchen is beyond me (perhaps they like the smell?))).
Giliell, your husband works in the Ruhrgebiet, I assume?
@SQB:
His litter is in the bathroom.
Near miss. Ludwigshafen, Rheinlandpfalz. Ruhrgebiet would be a no-go, too
That explains everything. He just wants to make sure you use your own toilet, not his.
She was positively screaming with delight.
In fact, she’s almost too smart. Parental decisions are being removed from strategic day-to-day planning. Baby Fire is beginning to learn at a geometric rate. She becomes self-sufficient at 2:14 a.m. Eastern Ti-
wait
Poor Abbie. She keeps throwing up these sciency virusy posts, but all the comments are still hoggling about Kyle’s mom or some shit.
And so she reaps what was sown.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/prolife-mps-refuse-to-back-down-over-bid-to-change-abortion-advice-2345862.html
Tory MP Nadine Dorries would like to take a leaf out of the US forced-birthers’ handbook. Just baby steps to begin with – at least she says she doesn’t want abortion counselling offered by Catholic organisations – but she wants “taxpayers’ money” taken away from organisations that provide abortions. Funny how it’s only “our” money when it’s going somewhere she disapproves of …
She thinks there are too many abortions carried out in the UK. Oddly enough, her solution seems to involve 60,000 unwanted babies being born – instead of more and better sex-ed and contraception availability.
One of the (anonymous) women whose comments are quoted in the article is brilliant, though. Apologies for the long quote – she puts it very well:
<Bill Cosby>Nutrition!</Bill Cosby>
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@ Kitty
Try this! (Link: Teh solution to kitteh loo.)
Hoo, I just surprised myself by taking the liberty of issuing not one but two porcupine invitations on the homeopathy Silly Brits thread. I certainly hope I got the wording right on the requisition form and delivered them to the right address …
A bit forward of me, as I haven’t really been around here enough to be sure of porcupine (requisitions), handling of, protocols and proper procedures!
I sold an old engagement ring (that I just found more than a decade after I wore it) to one of these businesses that are buying gold at the moment (and advertising fiercely). They paid me just enough to buy a case of cheap domestic beer, a pouch of rolling tobacco with papers and filters, and a small bag of salted cashew nuts. Cheers!
Giliell:
Did the little one make you have grapefruit juice, too?
I have never watched nor do I ever plan on watching Dancing with The Stars but
Some people are very upset because Chaz Bono will be dancing on the show. Some of the sample quotes sent to ABC.
None of this surprises me, I am well aware of the hatred and overkill that is shown to transgendered murder victims. But it still dismays me that some people toss off such casual and baseless hatred. Now I wait for groups like AFA and CWA to organize boycotts.
Hooray for BabyFire!
Isn’t that always the way?
Off to Home Depot on my lunch hour for toilet parts.
Midnight Rambler:
Thank you. I forgot about the opportunities created for exotics and invasives by fire. In a natural ecosystem, though (one without invasives), fire in the Hawaiian forest ecosystem created meadows and a multi-generational mosaic.
A little music.
Well, it will be a bitter pill for the over-50 crowd that is the primary audience of that show. By the way, I think you accidentally blockquoted your link.
Good (late) morning, Thread.
You are no longer allowed to have anything sharp or breakable lower than 3x Daughter’s height in your home.
I have absolutely nothing to do until my move on Saturday. All of my books are packed up, I have no transportation or money, and I am bored nearly to tears.
But did you have grapefruit juice with it? (a la Bill Cosby)
Rey Fox, you are right. Here is the link that I neglected before.
It is not just the over fifty crowd that is transphobic. I have memories of being confronted by a bunch of teens who were muttering about a “wannabe bitch”. I felt fortunate that no one in my group got hurt.
I don’t get it. What’s so bad about chocolate cake that you “will have to suffer all day for this”?
Chocolate cake?
The excess of fat on your american bones won’t soften the impact as you sink like a stone.
Probably a remnant of my conservative upbringing, but transgender makes me a little uncomfortable. I try very much not to be, and I’ve never discriminated against, insulted or badgered anyone who is transgender, and I certainly don’t think any less of transgender people.
I’m trying very hard to change this about myself. Reading comments on this blog and the snippets I’ve gotten recently from Katherine, have helped.
I am really glad that Chaz Bono will be dancing. I’ve never watched the show- but I might now. It is so wonderful to expose an audience, who would never voluntarily expose themselves, to people who are different from themselves.
And yes, I just said “voluntarily expose themselves”… *cue the giggles*
@Janine:
Yesterday, I was in a chat room (random chatter, nothing specific) and people were talking about Lady Gaga when someone came out with:
I was incensed because a) Lady Gaga isn’t a transgendered person and b) even if she was, the fact she identifies as a woman means you call her a woman! The chat room is the kind where people of all sorts – very notably GLBT people – hang out.
Those people are the sort who’d refuse to acknowledge my femaleness, the ones who’d still call me “he” even after transition. Transphobia is sad, and an even higher wall to climb over to true equality.
Squigit,
You are not the only one here with that particular shameful confession to make. I used to feel “uncomfortable” too, but all it took was a bit of self-education on the internet and reading posts by people like Katherine, as you said, to realize that the only one responsible for that uncomfortable feeling was me. I now feel very embarrassed for ever thinking something like “But I don’t know in which gender to refer to them” because that just shows how little I cared to understand transgendered people, instead pretending that I was owed some kind of explanation.
I guess I’m due for another Thank you! to Pharynguloids for teaching me a lot of good stuff. ;)
@Squigit:
Ehehe, I’m glad I can be the one turning you over towards the fabulous side >:D (no, not the faaabulous side. That’s Josh’s territory.)
I have a friend who has been having obsessive thoughts about death (not suicidal thoughts – fear of death) with no apparent (to hir) external cause. It hasn’t been going on too long (a week) but it is causing hir a lot of anxiety and xe is having trouble focusing on other things. Is there a bright line when this goes from the normal effects of mortality to something problematic?
Katherine, I know this will come as no surprise to you, this is for the straight people, but there is a lot of strife in the LGBT community. There are plenty of lesbians who do not like transgendered women, witness the on going feud between the Michigan Womyn’s Music festival and Camp Trans. A lot of gay men do not much like the more flamboyant gay men. Some gay men and lesbians do not much trust each other and resent their issues being lumped together. Ask Caine about how she is rendered invisible because she is married to a man. I can easily go on but I think my point is made.
There are a lot of gay men and lesbians who are just as fearful of transgendered people as many straight people are. They are just a committed to the idea of a fixed gender identity as any member of the AFA.
The whole “oh noes Chaz Bono” reactions posted here make me wonder what those people talk with their children about… I sincerely doubt that Chaz will be doing anything other than dancing (presumably lead). Why would a discussion of his gender ever even come up with their children? Do they generally discuss people’s gender presentation with their children?
Regarding how to address someone. The general rule is usually to address someone the way they are presenting unless it’s be specified otherwise. Also, at least in some community, which pronoun do you prefer is a perfectly acceptable thing to ask (the answer is not always he or she. I know folks who prefer it, they, and zie).
I honestly think a big part of the problem is that one of the major “attacks” against homosexuality is a challenge against gender identity – that, because one is gay, one is “trying to be a girl”, and that because one is lesbian one is “trying to be a man”. So, a lot of what gays and lesbians end up spending their time fighting against at the start is the mixing of gender and sexuality.
I also think part of it is that there is a distinction between gender and sexuality, and most people in general – including most gays and lesbians – don’t seem to “feel” the distinction (whether they know it intellectually or not). Remember, being homosexual doesn’t automatically make one a superhuman*.
This doesn’t excuse the behavior, obviously, but it might help to identify the source.
For me, the big “ah ha!” moment came when I framed it as something else entirely. I have a very specific mental image in my head of how I look; there was a time when how I looked didn’t match with how I felt (it still doesn’t, entirely, but this was pretty severe). That’s a very trivial kind of thing, and I don’t mean to detract at all from the monumental struggle that is being transgendered, but it gave me a small piece of what it feels like to have that discontinuity between who you are inside and how you appear on the outside.
*Except maybe Josh.
@Muse:
Seems to me like it’ll be coming up somehow initiated by parents in that situation. Chaz dancing and mom points at her TV, “Look there [daughter]. That man is actually a woman.”
I figure no child watching it will be able to see anything but a man dancing with a woman while they’re watching the show.
@Katherine – that’s exactly my point.
I want to know what kids stay up late enough to watch “Dancing with the Stars” anyhow? My kids are up in bed by 7:30.
Janine
This is news to me.
Although with a few moments of thought, it really shouldn’t be.
I’d say you’re almost certainly right. Sonny and Cher is probably not even on the map for kids these days, therefore Chastity Bono (as an accessory to the duo and their TV show) isn’t either; to the extent that older kids are aware of the Chastity/Chaz transition, I’d say that it’s bound to be about the transition, and therefore no surprise to them; no more Shock! Horror! than it was before the DWTS issue came up.
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Was this already posted about transgendered kids? Transgendered Kids Kudos to those parents.
Cross-posted in part from the Eagleman thread. I’m sure this will be controversial, but it’s something that I feel obliged to say.
I wish PZ, and others here, would stop promoting Sam Harris’ work. Harris is an authoritarian, a shallow thinker, a proponent of anti-Muslim bigotry (he promotes the xenophobic lies, favoured by the far right, that Islam poses a “threat to Western civilization” and that Europe is in danger from “creeping Sharia”), and an apologist for war and torture. Even where Harris is right on a specific issue, I’d argue that encouraging people to read Harris’ work on any subject has the effect of causing people to perceive him as an intellectually respectable and serious figure, which he is not. In my view, if someone defends torture and promotes bigotry, he or she should be ostracized by the mainstream intellectual community until s/he recants his or her views.
It’s all very well to say that someone can be right on one issue and wrong on others, and that an opinion should be judged on its own merits rather than on the basis of its source. Of course this is true, and I’m not arguing that Sam Harris’ opinions on atheism should be regarded as wrong merely because of their source: in fact I agree with him almost entirely as regards the arguments for the non-existence of deities. But I would argue that promoting Harris’ work in particular has the negative effect of encouraging people to take Harris seriously; and that it’s also unnecessary, since there are many other atheist writers (the late Bertrand Russell, for instance, and PZ himself) who are far more intelligent, insightful and perspicacious than Harris has ever been.
I’m still a bit embarrassed that my initial reaction when I heard about a high school crush’s transition was complete shock coupled with a vague resentment that I had no idea that she wasn’t male like I though she was. I had a real “shouldn’t I have known that” reaction where I made it all about me instead of being happy that she was finally able to be herself openly and honestly. It wasn’t about me or the fact that I had a crush on her when she still presented herself publicly as male, and I didn’t get that until later. The one thing I’m glad about is that I kept that shit to myself rather than inflicting it on her.
I think I equated her transition as similar to when another good friend came out as gay partway through high school and I wasn’t the least bit surprised, even though I’d had never once consciously thought about his sexuality.
@Walton:
Doesn’t that ring of the sort of response as dismissing anything Ken Miller says because he’s a Christian and believes in theological evolution? Miller is really smart, and totally correct about evolutionary stuff, except when he gets down to really tiny levels where he sees God. Should we dismiss Miller and ignore him even if he gives an awesome drag-down of a Creationist thought?
Most anyone is different from how we perceive them. Some people just can’t accept that a person would want to assert their self image in place of others misperceptions.
Holy shit! I sometimes wish that I were a fundamentalist — religious, political, social — so that I could create new definitions for words and then mock people for not knowing my new definition. Of course, that would be very fluviolacustrinian of me to assume that all would defenestrate my violence, right?
Your violence gets thrown out of the window in a riverbankly and lakeshorian manner? …..????……..? :)
I finally get why you (Pharynguloids in general) find libertarians so fun to play with. MRA & misogynists hit a bit too close to home, for me at least, and creationists don’t have much of an argument besides “By the power of God and his merry band of dinosaurs I command you to bring me a transitional fossil”, but libertarians….. They can provide hours of amusement. No matter what crazy scenario you throw at them, they will somehow elaborate on it in libertarian terms….which then gives a dozen new crazy scenarios to work with.
I think I’m hooked.
You just need to go (insert random web page link) to understand the definitions I am using and if you won’t go there you are a junior poopy head!
The constant redefinition of ‘aggression’ in the libertarian thread is driving me up the wall. And, of course, his definition is the only possible correct one.
Nthing.
My advice to new parents in my family is always “If you love it, pack it away. Don’t put it up higher. Put it into storage. Otherwise you’ll end up contemplating infanticide.” And I mean it, because I was continually shocked by my babies’/toddlers’ capability for finding and ruining precious things. Maybe I shouldn’t have been after the first three or four times, but every time I was certain they couldn’t get to something they managed. It only stopped when I removed important things from the house entirely.
So I urge all parents of toddlers to skip my heartache and put irreplaceable and favorite objects into storage for several years, minimum.
“By the power of God and his merry band of dinosaurs”
LOL!
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Anyone know a thing or two about emergency radios? Now that it’s calmed down a bit around here, I want to buy one for the next big natural event that gets the fundies squawking. Aside from knowing a hand-crank is a good idea, well, what else should I know? And if there are any recommendations for emergency radios, feel free to post them.
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And now that we have power, I guess it’s time to…nah, it can wait. Was gonna go pick up some milk but feh, a few more days of drinking evaporated milk mixed with water can’t hurt. I already stopped at the farmer’s market to pick up a few things, dairy can wait.
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I’ve decided that a few weeks of a big blank space on the back of my door might be good for me. Time to go rip that poster down and rip it to bits. Or burn, haven’t decided yet.
I think that’s applicable to people like Hitchens and Dawkins, who certainly say some disagreeable or outright obnoxious things now and then. But has Harris really contributed much that wasn’t like Walton described? Granted, I haven’t read his books, but from his essays and blogs it seems like everything he says is shallow thinking, without much thought for implications, consequences, or the real world.
Good evening
@chocolate cake
Nope, no grapefruit juice, but half a banana
about 500 calories.
I’m desperately trying to lose some weight.
Actually I really need to lose a lot of weight, but that’s too depressing.
So the rest of this day was mostly fruit.
Talking about strange food habbits, the little one tried rabbit food today. When my aunt tried to intervene telling her “That’s for the rabbits”, she got a cool “no, that’s for Madita” back.
@transgendered people
Maybe that’s my privileged hetero liberal point of view, but I’m lost as to what people perceive to be the problem.
OK, I had my gender identity questioned as a kid (loud tomboy, me), but never as an adult, but well, it’s totally not my business what other people identify as.
Yes, I would have a problem if my husband started wearing my dresses (oh, wait, he has..) and suddenly identified as a woman, but for the rest of the world I don’t have the right to give a shit about.
As for kids, unless you indoctrinate them, they don’t even notice anything special. Neither of my kids has asked so far why their uncle is kissing another man or why female friend A is married to female friend B. It’s just normal.
[bleeding sarcasm]
Hey, today I’ve beaten my sister. She may currently lead in the race for the “worst daughter award”, but she just can’t beat me at the “worst mother award”.
My horrible crime?
Playing in front of the house, I told the girls that if they had any kind of vehicle, they had to turn before they reached the neighbour’s daughter’s car. They’re young, they’re clumsy, they’re fast, no need to damage the girl’s first car.
How can I put somebody else’s property before the right of my kids to have fun on 100% of the street instead of a meager 70% of it? How can I aspire to teach them respect for other people and they’re needs?
*sigh*
*hugs lavender pillow*
(Thanx, David)
Brother Ogvorbis:
That’s not beneficial though. Because severe disturbance like that was so rare, there isn’t a suite of specially-adapted early and mid successional species that take over after a fire. Instead you just have a very small subset of what was there before, so diversity plummets. Other processes, like ohia dieback and severe droughts, create mosaics without wiping out the diversity.
Giliell,
Fun is for today, lessons are forever. Good on you for caring about the difference. Hugs because of the judge hanging over your shoulder.
Wow, still on this thread.
Work sucked yesterday, granted I live in a huge county, and we get veterans from three Washington counties coming in too, but man six new death claims really saps the joy out of your life.
Finished my 2nd sock of a pair this morning, so that’s happy!
666 for a 4th time?
Brother Ogvorbis @655
There sure were a lot of
polysyllabichigh falutin’big words in that post.@658 Yeah. The redefining of ‘aggression’ is making my head spin.
Patricia
Show off:)
When I heard Chaz Bono was going to be on DWTS, all I thought was, minor celebrity, good fit. The Redhead watches, I don’t.
PATRICIA IS THE ANTICHRIST AND WILL USHER THE 4 HORSEMEN OF APOCOLYPSE!
And because of that, I will invite her for wine and strawberry pie!
Congratulations, Patricia
Now you only need 662 more :)
Dhorvath:
That’s not the judge, it’s the inquisition…
I also fail to see how fun ends when there’s still enough room to run/rid/push a wheelbarrow. OK, fun ended when the kid decided to ignore me, but, well, that’s her decission.
Chigau:
Yes, I do tend towards polysyllabic and polyphonic words, not to mention archaic structures of sentence, but I have an excuse.
I play to my audience.
Giliell,
I didn’t expect the inquisition.
Our little guy is pretty good about stuff like that because it’s a firm line that we use regularly. How else do people learn to respect other’s property?
Brother Ogvorbis
I am part of that audience, fur shur.
Nice new ‘nym.
Pie? That sounds good!
We’re over run with peaches right now, so for supper it’s teriyaki chicken, with a peach, baby lima bean, cornd and cilentro salad, with lesbian lemon olive oil.
Dhorvath:
In my experience, a lot of them don’t
I admit I’ve been changing some of my parenting lately, but not that much. Not disturbing the rest of the world unnecessarily was always something I found important.
I expect a lot of tolerance for kids. They are kids after all, but I also expect them to respect other people’s boundaries (and other people to respect theirs)
There are social rules and norms that are important, especially if you want them to be able to navigate in that societx once they’ve grown out of the cute child.
Brother O
ah, I get it now – it’s all clear to me! :-D
kristinc
Not precious, exactly, but … did you know that cream crackers are exactly the right shape and size to fit into floppy disc drives? (remember them?) And that six-inch nails fit in there quite well too, as long as you put in at least half-a-dozen in a row? Oh, and paperback books fit into VCRs rather well…
Fixed!
And they will be all garlanded with pea vines.
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@Dhorvath:
NO ONE expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!
I just really want the comfy chair right about now.
I know it’s still technically August (at least here), but first Pumpkin beer of the season.
Not bad.
NEW THREAD!