Oh hey gee what do you know, the Muslim Brotherhood hasn’t turned all that “moderate” after all. How about that: when they said they had they were just bullshitting people so that they could win elections and then drop the mask. What a surprise!
CAIRO (Reuters) – The Muslim Brotherhood’s candidate for the Egyptian presidency, Khairat al-Shater, declared that introducing sharia law would be his “first and final” objective if he wins elections in May and June.
Yes well – that’s what people who call themselves “Muslim” and “Brotherhood” tend to do. They like sharia. It means they get extra women, and they get to kick the women around. They like that. They’re stupid to like it, because actually it’s more pleasant to live with a companion rather than a terrorized slave…although maybe the chance to live with four terrorized slaves is worth it to them, because of the extra sex. It certainly wouldn’t be to me, but then I’m a woman, so that’s beside the point. Sharia says so.
The constitution is due to be written by the 100-member assembly of politicians and public figures over the next six months. However, dozens of non-Islamist representatives have walked out, complaining that their voices are being drowned out.
“We will give the chance to our brothers to come back and we will proceed in our activities so that we aren’t late; both will take place simultaneously,” said Saad al-Katatni, a Brotherhood member who heads the assembly and is also parliamentary speaker.
Brothers. Obviously women don’t get a say. That would be blasphemous.
H/t Taslima Nasreen
As the French would say, “quelle surprise!“
Well, it was to be expected, wasn’t it? What a pity dozens of non-Islamists have chosen to walk out. Wouldn’t it be better to stay and shout louder? Surely anything but leave the “parliament” or whatever it is to the hate-mongers. Who is going to represent mere people?
And be killed by the Islamists’ militant followers?
And be killed by the Islamists’ militant followers?
So let them take over without a fight? What matters?
Savages.
Gordon is right, it is a terrible mistake for the anti-islamists to walk out. Even if they are representing a minority of the Egyptian people, it was their duty to stay on and fight harder, not cede the entire ground to the islamists.
In a non-islamist example from my country’s history, that’s what the socialist front MPs did in the 1960’s and 5 decades on, the country remains in the strangle-grip of a one-party de facto dictatorship. They failed the 40% of the electorate that need them to remain in parliament.
I like the “pragmatic conservative” tag. Is this the new “moderate Islamist”?
The word ‘moderate’ is thrown around as if it’s a good thing. That word ought to be replaced with the word “enabling”.
Again, western politicians still need to wake up to how religion destroys any hope of a stable liberal democratic future. Since many of our western politicians are religion soaked, they’ll largely continue to remain deluded.
Well I, for one, am surprised. He revealed this BEFORE the election.
Are we sure that by «brotherhood» and «brothers» they mean only men? In many languages, including my own (Portuguese), masculine is the default linguistic gender when the actual psychological gender is unknown or when multiple genders are present. Thus our words for «brother» is the same as our word for «sibling» (and this is not considered misogynistic, only normal – though it may be considered proof of the cultural misogyny that permeates our culture, but that’s another story altogether). I understand this is very common in a lot of languages throughout the world.
(I hope this doesn’t look like a defense of the Muslim Brotherhood. I agree that they are islamofascists and theopatriarchal. But I do want to be sure that my arguments are sound, and not just the result of hasty translations.)
I’m not sure. The “sexism hurts everybody” thing applies well to the society, but on a household scale they get to have their cake and eat it too.
Terrorising slaves is more a license than an obligation, though there’s probably a little obligation.
Unfortunately the Islamists were/are generally the best organised opposition in Arab countries. And if you thought the secular, one-party governments were bad (and they were) …
Really? You wouldn’t like to have four male terrorized slaves available 24/7?
Makes sense to me.
We are heading towards an Iran-like theocracy, and it makes no difference ours being a Sunni theocracy against the Iranian Shia theocracy. Goodbye to freedom of thought! But we will continue to fight.
It may have been inevitable but it still broke my heart to see the Egyptians vote in the Muslim Brotherhood. Out of the hands of one brutal dictator and in to the hands of another. It has been said before but I will say it again. Religion, all religion, is anathema to freedom.
Quite a number of people have been saying right since the beginning that the Arab Spring wasn’t a grassroots democratic movement, but they were all shouted down as islamophobes, racists and bigots.
Ok, all right, it’s all water under the bridge now.
However, there is still something we CAN do to make life for the MB difficult, and it resides in NOT financing this régime.
But no! Europe and America are getting ready to give these bastards billions in free money, without their sharia project couldn’t go ahead.
It’s very simple. You want to see progress in the Arabo/Muslim world?
Just withdraw all support, financial and otherwise, and disengage completely from the region, and then sit back and watch until sharia takes the road to bankruptcy.
Sometimes the best way to help is to not help at all
Here they come, cap in hand, to tell us all sorts of pretty lies about sharia, and then they’ll return home with all the cash.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/officials-egypts-brotherhood-white-house-225832039.html
Gil – well it’s the wording plus what we already know about the utter male-centrism – but no, you’re right, I don’t know that “Brother” doesn’t also mean “sibling” in Arabic. But if it does, that itself of course is a way of disappearing women, and I disagree with you that that’s a separate issue; I think it’s very much the same issue.
So, we go from secular tyranny to theocracy. Is that progress? Of course not, but everyone knew it was coming. It was not possible not to know, to imagine that the followers of Qutb and his Muslim Brotherhood would not turn Egypt into another failed Islamic state. Will women disappear in Egypt as they are made to in Saudi Arabia? Probably. And never mind about minority religions, like the Copts.
I hope we are all watching the writing on the wall. Theocracy is the next step, even for secular republics, unless we can manage to do something really fast. Obama has made his peace with the religious. Cameron is touting the Britain is Christian line. The Prime Minister of Canada and the Conservative Party are allied to evagelical movements which directly influence political decisions. I don’t know enough about Australlia to say. Even India is qualifying its laws of free speech so much that soon free speech in India will only be a memory. Religions are on the move; and religions are like this. They do not, cannot, respect boundaries, and if they can take the next step, they will. It’s just that simple. Maybe I’m getting old and cranky, but I am not optimistic about the future. I think there is another seventeeth century brewing, but this time it encompasses the whole world. Religion really does poison everything… and now we’re into a whole long weekend of it at least in this part of the world!
Easter in Anglican countries is a nightmare. Funny that it’s not in the hyper-religious US.
Yes, Eric, it’s a worrying time. Here in Australia, we (this time thankfully) appear to be a little behind much of the world, but we are likely to catch up soon. We have an atheist Prime Minister (who won’t support gay marriage!) but she will almost certainly be defeated at the next election. Her replacement will be an ultra-conservative Roman Catholic, once not so affectionately known as “the mad monk”. We will then see the kind of pandering to religion that we see currently in other countries.
@^ Carmichael :
Yep, you beat me to it. Tony Abbott aka the “Mad Monk” aka “Captain Catholic” a scary religious rightwing extremist.
We can only hope things change before the election either Gillard improving enough to win (unlikely) or someone else(Malcolm Turnbull?) taking over theleadership of the Opposition -also unlikely. 🙁
Eric MacDonald asked :
See above. A previous treasurer Peter Costello was a member of the Hillsong Church /cult and came close to supporting creationism outright. We also have the small and so far ineffective Family First religious party along with a few uber religious extremist politicans inour history – and present. Sad to say.
If current trends continue the Australian Lablour party (ALP) will lose the next election in a landslide and Tony Abbott willbe PM in 2013. That prospect is a very bleak one. Abbott is a climate change denier and all round tool – see :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BC49dJSo5k
for more.