Someone should probably inform all of the people living in predominantly atheist nations in Europe that they no longer have rights. I guess they missed the memo.
After he sold his channel to ABC-TV for their family channel, he kept an hour time slot. I was chief engineer of the Family Channel, that was not a fun hour.
brianthomassays
LMAO.
Yeah Santorum is just bringin’ “a little faith” into the presidential campaign, like every other presidential campaign has done.
“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
Article 6 Paragraph 3, please note the last clause.
MichaelDsays
But just think of all the good it would do the economy! All the jobs that would be created running the internment camps and building the guillotines!
And reducing the size of the pool of surplus labour!
Usernames are stupidsays
I love watching this old Git’s brain try to function.
~ they’ve all acknowledged that, uh, our freedoms come from god. And we take god out of our society and we’ve lost our freedoms.
Last verse, first: assuming it exists as in the bible, can we take god out of our society?
According to Jerimiah 3:27, unlike a delinquent tenant, god can’t be removed if god wants to stay: “Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?”
Okay, now do our freedoms come from god, like Freedom of the Press, of Assembly, of the right to Face One’s Accuser in a Court of Law? The essence of his argument is if we [a] have god in our society, we [b] have our freedoms.
1. If a, then b.
2. If b, then a.
3. If not a, then not b.
4. If not b, then not a.
For his statement to be true (#1), 4 must be true and 2 & 3 must be coincidence if true.
4. If we don’t have our freedoms, then we do not have god in our society.
* Not true – some people (e.g., convicted felons, people in other countries) do not have the same freedoms.
2. If we have our freedoms, then we have god in our society.
* Not true – We still have our freedoms; even Pat thinks god got evicted from our society by the atheist cabal.
3. If we don’t have god in our society, then we don’t have our freedoms.
* Not true – Some people do not believe in god. God is clearly not in parts of our society, yet those parts still enjoy the same freedoms as the rest.
4. If we don’t ave our freedoms, then god isn’t in our society.
* Again, Not true – the presence or absence of god has no affect on our freedoms.
Fsays
And therefore, god didn’t exist until the formal founding of the USA.
Shaunsays
Not to be “that guy,” but I’m guessing you meant “…people living in…” instead.
Shaunsays
Oops, nevermind, already fixed. Shaun away!
Buffysays
Studies have shown that predominantly secular nations have a higher quality of life (as evidenced by lower crime rates, more equality, more scientific progress, better education, fewer social ills, etc.). But I guess to nitwits like Robertson that’s something to be avoided.
sunsangnimsays
That would imply they could even think we could learn something by looking at other countries. The USA is always #1, and if anyone says otherwise, they are automatically wrong.
I seem to remember Glenn Beck beaming proudly about the World Health Organization listing the US as #37 in health care. He said he wished we were ranked even lower. If an evil secular international organization criticizes us, we must be doing something right.
Did this guy escape from some political dark-ride?
Maybe someone could tell him, that in Europe’s, struggles for freedom the churches (all of them) almost everytime were on the other side of the barricades. And they did not change their positions, they just lost some of their power to suppress freedom.
Oh, by the way, could someone inform me, wich are those predominantly atheist nations in Europe?
grumpyoldfartsays
He’s not even slightly worried about an atheistic dictatorship. He is absolutely convinced that god has everything under control. The only reason he says stuff like that is to frighten the flock – it makes them easier to fleece.
jerthebarbariansays
I always wished that ABC would schedule something really risque right around that hour. Just to get on Robertson’s nerves.
jerthebarbariansays
It’s cute that you really think that Pat Robertson believes in God. God has never been more than a way to extract money from marks for Robertson.
If his life had taken a slightly different turn he’d be running rigged carnival games at State Fairs.
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Kimisays
There’s no “predominently atheist” nations in the world.
Even here, highly secular northern Europe where I live, we are predominantly christian. Allthough you dont have to hide your atheism like in the states.
Neither Britain nor France are predominantly atheist nations but they are very secular.
Unfortunately creationism and “christianism” are rising in the Europe allso. Everything USA has done France/Britain have done 10 years later. Everything France have done we, Finns have done 10 years later (except nuclear weapons) but thats basicly how memes move around the world.
Quatguysays
Why does anyone still listen to that old twisted hateful raisin?
carpentermansays
“Paranoia, paranoia,
Everybody’s coming to get meeeee…”
WingedBeastsays
Underpants Gnome Logic.
Step 1. Less God in Government.
Step 2. ??????????????
Step 3. Loss of all freedoms.
Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort says
Ugh, thankfully that was short. I can only listen to about a minute of that guy before I start wanting to rip things into pieces.
Warner says
After he sold his channel to ABC-TV for their family channel, he kept an hour time slot. I was chief engineer of the Family Channel, that was not a fun hour.
brianthomas says
LMAO.
Yeah Santorum is just bringin’ “a little faith” into the presidential campaign, like every other presidential campaign has done.
Yeah, sure….that’s all he’s doing.
Warner says
“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
Article 6 Paragraph 3, please note the last clause.
MichaelD says
But just think of all the good it would do the economy! All the jobs that would be created running the internment camps and building the guillotines!
Jaime says
And reducing the size of the pool of surplus labour!
Usernames are stupid says
I love watching this old Git’s brain try to function.
Last verse, first: assuming it exists as in the bible, can we take god out of our society?
According to Jerimiah 3:27, unlike a delinquent tenant, god can’t be removed if god wants to stay: “Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?”
Okay, now do our freedoms come from god, like Freedom of the Press, of Assembly, of the right to Face One’s Accuser in a Court of Law? The essence of his argument is if we [a] have god in our society, we [b] have our freedoms.
1. If a, then b.
2. If b, then a.
3. If not a, then not b.
4. If not b, then not a.
For his statement to be true (#1), 4 must be true and 2 & 3 must be coincidence if true.
4. If we don’t have our freedoms, then we do not have god in our society.
* Not true – some people (e.g., convicted felons, people in other countries) do not have the same freedoms.
2. If we have our freedoms, then we have god in our society.
* Not true – We still have our freedoms; even Pat thinks god got evicted from our society by the atheist cabal.
3. If we don’t have god in our society, then we don’t have our freedoms.
* Not true – Some people do not believe in god. God is clearly not in parts of our society, yet those parts still enjoy the same freedoms as the rest.
4. If we don’t ave our freedoms, then god isn’t in our society.
* Again, Not true – the presence or absence of god has no affect on our freedoms.
F says
And therefore, god didn’t exist until the formal founding of the USA.
Shaun says
Not to be “that guy,” but I’m guessing you meant “…people living in…” instead.
Shaun says
Oops, nevermind, already fixed. Shaun away!
Buffy says
Studies have shown that predominantly secular nations have a higher quality of life (as evidenced by lower crime rates, more equality, more scientific progress, better education, fewer social ills, etc.). But I guess to nitwits like Robertson that’s something to be avoided.
sunsangnim says
That would imply they could even think we could learn something by looking at other countries. The USA is always #1, and if anyone says otherwise, they are automatically wrong.
I seem to remember Glenn Beck beaming proudly about the World Health Organization listing the US as #37 in health care. He said he wished we were ranked even lower. If an evil secular international organization criticizes us, we must be doing something right.
Molly Rene says
Can I volunteer to be dictator of the inevitable atheist dictatorship?
wolfstettler says
Did this guy escape from some political dark-ride?
Maybe someone could tell him, that in Europe’s, struggles for freedom the churches (all of them) almost everytime were on the other side of the barricades. And they did not change their positions, they just lost some of their power to suppress freedom.
Oh, by the way, could someone inform me, wich are those predominantly atheist nations in Europe?
grumpyoldfart says
He’s not even slightly worried about an atheistic dictatorship. He is absolutely convinced that god has everything under control. The only reason he says stuff like that is to frighten the flock – it makes them easier to fleece.
jerthebarbarian says
I always wished that ABC would schedule something really risque right around that hour. Just to get on Robertson’s nerves.
jerthebarbarian says
It’s cute that you really think that Pat Robertson believes in God. God has never been more than a way to extract money from marks for Robertson.
If his life had taken a slightly different turn he’d be running rigged carnival games at State Fairs.
asmallcontempt says
*pats gently on head*
Time for bed, Grampa Robbie. You’ve overwoke your welcome.
JM says
So the founding fathers created god?
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Kimi says
There’s no “predominently atheist” nations in the world.
Even here, highly secular northern Europe where I live, we are predominantly christian. Allthough you dont have to hide your atheism like in the states.
Neither Britain nor France are predominantly atheist nations but they are very secular.
Unfortunately creationism and “christianism” are rising in the Europe allso. Everything USA has done France/Britain have done 10 years later. Everything France have done we, Finns have done 10 years later (except nuclear weapons) but thats basicly how memes move around the world.
Quatguy says
Why does anyone still listen to that old twisted hateful raisin?
carpenterman says
“Paranoia, paranoia,
Everybody’s coming to get meeeee…”
WingedBeast says
Underpants Gnome Logic.
Step 1. Less God in Government.
Step 2. ??????????????
Step 3. Loss of all freedoms.
Thomas Everett Haynes says
Actually he is right, I am an Athiest and I have been planning to start a truly secular dictatorship any moment now…
Clearly there is some leak in my intelligence agency.