Hey there! How’s it going? Oh, don’t seem surprised – I know you’re subscribed to my blog since twice now you’ve written a rebuttal to my posts within 24 hours of my original posts. I just want to say it’s incredibly cute how you’re too afraid to mention my name or link to my blog lest someone read an alternative opinion and make their own decisions. I mean, we don’t want people thinking or coming to their own conclusions, do we? I giggle every time you make up a new excuse to not name me, like:
“Many atheist bloggers have expressed joy over this, but it’s not worth taking the time to tell you about any more of them.”
and
“because I don’t subscribe to the language and advertising on the blogs that are defending pornography, I’m not going to give any links, and will not permit any to be posted on this blog.”
But please don’t stop. I get a certain amount of glee knowing someone feels so intimidated by my arguments – must mean I’m explaining my points really well! And what an honor that you’ll mention Pharyngula and Friendly Atheist all the time, but Blag Hag is just too much of a threat! I am a little disappointed, though, that you didn’t come up with some witty pun of my blog to put under your “Evil Sites” links like PharyTales or Hateful Atheist. Can I suggest “She Who Must Not Be Named?”
Your favorite atheist blogger,
Jen
He's obviously intimidated by strong independent women. That's why he is afraid of you and is so anti-porn. The fact that women can be equals (or betters) scares him right down to the bone.
He’s obviously intimidated by strong independent women. That’s why he is afraid of you and is so anti-porn. The fact that women can be equals (or betters) scares him right down to the bone.
I'm so glad one of the atheists I follow on Twitter posted a link to your last blog post. I think I'm going to enjoy your blog.
I’m so glad one of the atheists I follow on Twitter posted a link to your last blog post. I think I’m going to enjoy your blog.
I went and looked at that guy's blog…did I miss it or is he yet another Christian who doesn't allow comments on his "articles?" I love declaring he will allow no links to your blog!
Congrats on scaring the idiot into censorship!
I went and looked at that guy’s blog…did I miss it or is he yet another Christian who doesn’t allow comments on his “articles?” I love declaring he will allow no links to your blog! Congrats on scaring the idiot into censorship!
Awesome Jen! Awesome!
Awesome Jen! Awesome!
Yes, he recently banned comments and instead made segregated forums for Christians and Atheists to post in.
Yes, he recently banned comments and instead made segregated forums for Christians and Atheists to post in.
Lol, Jen, I was hoping you'd make a thread like this! Just wait ’til I finish writing my own (considerably bulky) post on this whole affair. (’Cause you just know I couldn’t resist, could I?)
@Stephan:He used to allow comments, until he first banned atheists, and then simply disallowed commenting altogether. Typical dishonest hypocrite.
Lol, Jen, I was hoping you’d make a thread like this! Just wait ’til I finish writing my own (considerably bulky) post on this whole affair. (’Cause you just know I couldn’t resist, could I?)@Stephan:He used to allow comments, until he first banned atheists, and then simply disallowed commenting altogether. Typical dishonest hypocrite.
I can't wait for his frustrated response.
I can’t wait for his frustrated response.
Poor, deluded man. Is it too much to hope he might grow up someday?
…Yeah, probably.
Poor, deluded man. Is it too much to hope he might grow up someday?…Yeah, probably.
One can only hope his next post starts out with "Some atheists (who i won't tell you about) challenge us True Christians to be mature and reasonable, but because of the glorious faith we cling to, I will not give in to these people (who I won't mention)."
One can only hope his next post starts out with “Some atheists (who i won’t tell you about) challenge us True Christians to be mature and reasonable, but because of the glorious faith we cling to, I will not give in to these people (who I won’t mention).”
Stephan, there's a forum, but the link is kind of hidden.
Stephan, there’s a forum, but the link is kind of hidden.
Oh dear, twitterers (wtf do I call them?) are saying he's stalking me again. I don't think I consider subscribing to a blog and commenting on it without linking to it stalkerly, and I don't condone using the term to stir up controversy. Stalkerly, no. Intellectually dishonest, yes.
Oh dear, twitterers (wtf do I call them?) are saying he’s stalking me again. I don’t think I consider subscribing to a blog and commenting on it without linking to it stalkerly, and I don’t condone using the term to stir up controversy. Stalkerly, no. Intellectually dishonest, yes.
New reader here. I look forward to reading your posts!
Chad
New reader here. I look forward to reading your posts!Chad
Sorry, that was me on Twitter. I shouldn't have used the word "stalk" I guess but I couldn't think of any other word to describe someone talking about you behind your back while completely avoiding all mentions of your name. It's kinda hard to sum all of that up with 140 characters.
Sorry, that was me on Twitter. I shouldn’t have used the word “stalk” I guess but I couldn’t think of any other word to describe someone talking about you behind your back while completely avoiding all mentions of your name. It’s kinda hard to sum all of that up with 140 characters.
That's okay Rev – I, being a rational being, understand. Just wanted to make my views clear for certain people who like to refer to me as a "maniacly insane blogger"
That’s okay Rev – I, being a rational being, understand. Just wanted to make my views clear for certain people who like to refer to me as a “maniacly insane blogger”
I like his 'Useful Information' links
Fox NewsGlenn BeckReal Clear PoliticsAnswers in GenesisCarm.org
Nothing unexpected, of course. But still facepalm-worthy
I like his ‘Useful Information’ linksFox NewsGlenn BeckReal Clear PoliticsAnswers in GenesisCarm.orgNothing unexpected, of course. But still facepalm-worthy
well, I'll give the man credit, he has fine taste in atheists, even if he sublimates his love and envy into hatred and apoplectic denunciations.
keep up the great work, Jen!
well, I’ll give the man credit, he has fine taste in atheists, even if he sublimates his love and envy into hatred and apoplectic denunciations.keep up the great work, Jen!
I take issue with him calling the national Blasphemy day a Holiday. A holiday is antithetical to the concept of blasphemy day. Am I wrong?
I take issue with him calling the national Blasphemy day a Holiday. A holiday is antithetical to the concept of blasphemy day. Am I wrong?
I've now finished my own “little” rebuttal to Pastor Tom’s amalgamation of stupidity, ignorance and dishonesty that passes for a blog post. (But then, that last phrase encompasses his entire blog, so that’s not saying much.)
Overall, it really is amazing how he can spend so much time and effort attacking atheists wherever he goes whilst simultaneously not having a damned idea about who they are or what they do, and whilst being so utterly, blindingly hypocritical as to such in every atom of honesty for miles around.
(Wait … I may have tried too hard there.)
Dun care about the clichéd phrase, but: keep up the good work, Jen! =)
I’ve now finished my own “little” rebuttal to Pastor Tom’s amalgamation of stupidity, ignorance and dishonesty that passes for a blog post. (But then, that last phrase encompasses his entire blog, so that’s not saying much.)Overall, it really is amazing how he can spend so much time and effort attacking atheists wherever he goes whilst simultaneously not having a damned idea about who they are or what they do, and whilst being so utterly, blindingly hypocritical as to such in every atom of honesty for miles around.(Wait … I may have tried too hard there.)Dun care about the clichéd phrase, but: keep up the good work, Jen! =)
Damn, forgot to add:
@BenYitzhak:Technically, a holiday is just a day designated to celebrate something. Why wouldn’t blaspheming against the ugliness of religion be something worth celebrating?
Damn, forgot to add:@BenYitzhak:Technically, a holiday is just a day designated to celebrate something. Why wouldn’t blaspheming against the ugliness of religion be something worth celebrating?
Jen, the good pastor seems to be cut from the same cloth that would support female genitalia mutilation to prevent women from having any sexuality at all. A Woman's mojo is much stronger than a mans apparently and should be suppressed by any means.
Jen, the good pastor seems to be cut from the same cloth that would support female genitalia mutilation to prevent women from having any sexuality at all. A Woman’s mojo is much stronger than a mans apparently and should be suppressed by any means.
Ben, Blasphemy Day is indeed worthy of being deemed a holiday if you believe that free speech is sacred. Blasphemy and dissent against governmental authority are the two most quintessential acts of free speech available to us since it is religious and political authorities alone from whom anyone has ever had to worry about coercion against the right of free speech.
So, yes, if you believe that nothing is sacred except free speech itself (as Pat Condell argues http://camelswithhammers.com/2009/06/30/free-speech-is-sacred/) then the only true holy day on the calendar is the day in which you celebrate free speech itself by exercising it in defiance of those forces of authoritarianism who blaspheme against freedom by inventing the concept of a blasphemy in the first place.
Ben, Blasphemy Day is indeed worthy of being deemed a holiday if you believe that free speech is sacred. Blasphemy and dissent against governmental authority are the two most quintessential acts of free speech available to us since it is religious and political authorities alone from whom anyone has ever had to worry about coercion against the right of free speech.So, yes, if you believe that nothing is sacred except free speech itself (as Pat Condell argues http://camelswithhammers.com/2… then the only true holy day on the calendar is the day in which you celebrate free speech itself by exercising it in defiance of those forces of authoritarianism who blaspheme against freedom by inventing the concept of a blasphemy in the first place.
Joe because I think Ben means that "holiday" is actually "Holy" "Day"
Joe because I think Ben means that “holiday” is actually “Holy” “Day”
Interesting point Camels with Hammers, but I don't know that I agree. Free Speech is incredibly important, perhaps essential, but I hesitate to use the word sacred.
Interesting point Camels with Hammers, but I don’t know that I agree. Free Speech is incredibly important, perhaps essential, but I hesitate to use the word sacred.
I defiantly vote for "She Who Must Not Be Named". It has a certain ring to it :)
I defiantly vote for “She Who Must Not Be Named”. It has a certain ring to it :)
Nah, “She Who Must Not Be Named” is too long. Most obvious choice is …
“Blog Hag”
Trust me, it’s really derogatory if used by him. =P Plus, it has something to do with the blog’s name. ;-)
Nah, “She Who Must Not Be Named” is too long. Most obvious choice is …“Blog Hag”Trust me, it’s really derogatory if used by him. =P Plus, it has something to do with the blog’s name. ;-)
Hello from Sweden! Just found this blog through Pharyngula, and it seems like one that I'll really enjoy. Added to my feeds.
Hello from Sweden! Just found this blog through Pharyngula, and it seems like one that I’ll really enjoy. Added to my feeds.
But then it loses the assonance. Blog Hog?
But then it loses the assonance. Blog Hog?
Hmm … I don’t see what this blog or its operator have anything to do with hogs or piggishness …
Which, of course, means Tom Estes definitely will find a correlation. Win! =P
Hmm … I don’t see what this blog or its operator have anything to do with hogs or piggishness …Which, of course, means Tom Estes definitely will find a correlation. Win! =P
Michael, I saw the forums, but I was speaking of the articles themselves. Apparently when he turned off comments, he also removed the ability to see any of the old comments as well…so when he claims it was all just personal attacks, we have no evidence to check his claims.From what I see in the forums, it appears that the atheists and rationalists are pointing out real errors while being mean sometimes. But I don't think that is a bad thing. Sometimes kids need belief in Santa Claus mocked to stop believing nonsense.
Michael, I saw the forums, but I was speaking of the articles themselves. Apparently when he turned off comments, he also removed the ability to see any of the old comments as well…so when he claims it was all just personal attacks, we have no evidence to check his claims.From what I see in the forums, it appears that the atheists and rationalists are pointing out real errors while being mean sometimes. But I don’t think that is a bad thing. Sometimes kids need belief in Santa Claus mocked to stop believing nonsense.
Jen,
If the anti-porn rally taught you anything, it should be that Tom's crowd will just refer to you as "that atheist girl."
Cause, you know, you are the only one, right? =P
Jen,If the anti-porn rally taught you anything, it should be that Tom’s crowd will just refer to you as “that atheist girl.”Cause, you know, you are the only one, right? =P
Jen, I have been reading and commenting over at Pastor T.Estes train wreak just because I can't help myself. But I want to congratulate you on your level head and maturity during this whole business. You stand in stark contrast to him and you should be very proud.
On a personal note, I have a daughter who will begin to look at colleges soon. Strong organizations like yours will now be added to the search criteria.
Jen, I have been reading and commenting over at Pastor T.Estes train wreak just because I can’t help myself. But I want to congratulate you on your level head and maturity during this whole business. You stand in stark contrast to him and you should be very proud.On a personal note, I have a daughter who will begin to look at colleges soon. Strong organizations like yours will now be added to the search criteria.
Congratulations in inspirin anger on Pastor Tom just by saying the Truth. I love your blog, please keep the good work!
Congratulations in inspirin anger on Pastor Tom just by saying the Truth. I love your blog, please keep the good work!
He doesn't know how to quit you, Jen.
He doesn’t know how to quit you, Jen.
BeamStalk, you win
BeamStalk, you win
Jen, as you know, you are performing an invaluable service. I'm a former pastor myself and still speak mostly to religious audiences (I've spoken to more than a thousand groups in the last 8 years). I am the author of "Thank God for Evolution", which has been endorsed by 6 Nobel laureates and other science luminaries (including noted skeptics and atheists) and by religious leaders across the spectrum.
I was diagnosed with advanced lymphoma a couple of weeks ago (rather large tumor in my spleen) and for a few days thought I might die soon. My oncologist now says there's a decent chance that I'll survive this (with chemotherapy and radiation or surgery), but before I learned this I recorded a podcast: "The New Atheists: Modern-Day Prophets". It came to me when I asked myself the question, "If I had only one message left to communicate before I die, what would it be?" My intended audience is, of course, religious folk. Since I'm encouraging them to take atheists like yourself very seriously (not to argue with but to learn: "to hear the voice of reality speaking"), I thought you might enjoy most if not all of it. Feel free to pass it on to your religious friends if you think it will do any good.
"The New Atheists: Modern-Day Prophets"http://evolutionaryevangelists.libsyn.com
Keep up the great blogging,
~ Michael
Jen, as you know, you are performing an invaluable service. I’m a former pastor myself and still speak mostly to religious audiences (I’ve spoken to more than a thousand groups in the last 8 years). I am the author of “Thank God for Evolution”, which has been endorsed by 6 Nobel laureates and other science luminaries (including noted skeptics and atheists) and by religious leaders across the spectrum.I was diagnosed with advanced lymphoma a couple of weeks ago (rather large tumor in my spleen) and for a few days thought I might die soon. My oncologist now says there’s a decent chance that I’ll survive this (with chemotherapy and radiation or surgery), but before I learned this I recorded a podcast: “The New Atheists: Modern-Day Prophets”. It came to me when I asked myself the question, “If I had only one message left to communicate before I die, what would it be?” My intended audience is, of course, religious folk. Since I’m encouraging them to take atheists like yourself very seriously (not to argue with but to learn: “to hear the voice of reality speaking”), I thought you might enjoy most if not all of it. Feel free to pass it on to your religious friends if you think it will do any good.”The New Atheists: Modern-Day Prophets”http://evolutionaryevangelists…Keep up the great blogging,~ Michael
Dammit, Beamer, I came here to say something similar to that.
Dammit, Beamer, I came here to say something similar to that.
It seems to be you occupy the role in Tom's life that PZ occupies in Ken Ham's.That of the consistently unnamed atheists who is a sower of lies and discord.
I must say I am a bit jealous.
It seems to be you occupy the role in Tom’s life that PZ occupies in Ken Ham’s.That of the consistently unnamed atheists who is a sower of lies and discord. I must say I am a bit jealous.
You're fast becoming the new ERV.
(Far be it from me to suggest that you and Abbie duke it out in a wat of custard.)
You’re fast becoming the new ERV.(Far be it from me to suggest that you and Abbie duke it out in a wat of custard.)
What flavour custard Sili?
What flavour custard Sili?
Keep at 'em, Jen. Wish I'd been around at home for this, so I could make more snarky remarks, but I've been in the desert, playing with horses.
Horses beat crazies every day. They have more sense in them as long as they're raised right.
Keep at ’em, Jen. Wish I’d been around at home for this, so I could make more snarky remarks, but I’ve been in the desert, playing with horses.Horses beat crazies every day. They have more sense in them as long as they’re raised right.
Damn Jen, you're getting popular enough that certain people feel compelled to plug themselves (I'm lookin' at you Camels and Dowd).
I will say that it's quite enjoyable watching you gain the well-deserved fame.
Damn Jen, you’re getting popular enough that certain people feel compelled to plug themselves (I’m lookin’ at you Camels and Dowd).I will say that it’s quite enjoyable watching you gain the well-deserved fame.
Sili, after meeting both Abbie and Jen, this must happen!
Sili, after meeting both Abbie and Jen, this must happen!
BTW, I live in Oklahoma, so I see Abbie any time I go to an Oklahoma City Atheist meeting. I saw Jen at the PZ CreoZerg. So I am only partially stalking atheist blog women.
BTW, I live in Oklahoma, so I see Abbie any time I go to an Oklahoma City Atheist meeting. I saw Jen at the PZ CreoZerg. So I am only partially stalking atheist blog women.
Rev. Ouabache said…
"Sorry, that was me on Twitter. I shouldn't have used the word "stalk" I guess but I couldn't think of any other word to describe someone talking about you behind your back while completely avoiding all mentions of your name. It's kinda hard to sum all of that up with 140 characters."
Dysfunctional douche?
Rev. Ouabache said… “Sorry, that was me on Twitter. I shouldn’t have used the word “stalk” I guess but I couldn’t think of any other word to describe someone talking about you behind your back while completely avoiding all mentions of your name. It’s kinda hard to sum all of that up with 140 characters.”Dysfunctional douche?
Jen: That's a hoot that he no longer allows comments on his blog. Guess he got tired of having his ass handed to him, especially after his brilliant comment "Christians didn't own slaves. A slave was someone who couldn't pay off a debt with money, so they paid it off with work. When the debt was paid, the slave was free. And every 50 years, all slaves were given a clean slate wheither they still owed money or not. Even if they had sold their property to pay off a debt, the property was given back". After I picked my jaw off the floor I enjoyed the comments. Then he was posted on FSTDT.net and is getting slammed there.
Love the fact he won't link to you. You must be a really scary woman.
Jen: That’s a hoot that he no longer allows comments on his blog. Guess he got tired of having his ass handed to him, especially after his brilliant comment “Christians didn’t own slaves. A slave was someone who couldn’t pay off a debt with money, so they paid it off with work. When the debt was paid, the slave was free. And every 50 years, all slaves were given a clean slate wheither they still owed money or not. Even if they had sold their property to pay off a debt, the property was given back”. After I picked my jaw off the floor I enjoyed the comments. Then he was posted on FSTDT.net and is getting slammed there.Love the fact he won’t link to you. You must be a really scary woman.
Ahh, This guy makes me so angry! Pretty much everything he says is a contradiction to something else he said. Keep up the good work, Jen.
Ahh, This guy makes me so angry! Pretty much everything he says is a contradiction to something else he said. Keep up the good work, Jen.
WTF? Did Michael Dowd really just spam this thread? I am confused now.
WTF? Did Michael Dowd really just spam this thread? I am confused now.
Pastor Tom's website is currently unavailable. I think it has something with do with him being featured on Fundies Say the Darndest Things.
Pastor Tom’s website is currently unavailable. I think it has something with do with him being featured on Fundies Say the Darndest Things.
Nah, Rev., he shut it down a week or two ago, saying he’d gotten “bored” – this, right after he posted a YouTube video accusing atheists of “crumbling” in the face of Christians and fundies. The Lulz is strong with this one.
Nah, Rev., he shut it down a week or two ago, saying he’d gotten “bored” – this, right after he posted a YouTube video accusing atheists of “crumbling” in the face of Christians and fundies. The Lulz is strong with this one.