He’s just so transparently pathetic. Clearly, his frustration is growing and he has no idea what to do, other than just yell at people and demand they make it better.
lumipunasays
I can see that American people are not a pushover.
American people – local activists, journalists, social media amplifiers – critical of the government are the main reason the world knows about these atrocities, to the point of not being able to look away.
My sympathies to You The People.
ravensays
In the real world, the police, National Guard, and US military can’t do all that much to stop the riots.
In theory, they could just start shooting and kill a few hundreds or thousands of protesters.
That has its own problems though.
You go from being a police force to being an occupying force.
So you have to keep applying more and more violence more often.
At some point, the soldiers get tired of killing their friends, relatives, and neighbors and stop.
The regime falls.
We’ve seen this before.
When the old USSR fell, there was a counter revolution by the commies.
The people went into the streets.
The army refused to slaughter them and they won.
Strangely enough, one of guys watching this was a KGB agent named Vladimir Putin.
Same thing happened in East Germany.
Iran of the Shah.
The army in Iran shot unarmed protesters for days until they couldn’t make themselves keep doing it.
blfsays
@1, I’ve been referring to his “administration” as the dalekocracy — rule by daleks — for some time now. Actually, after an accidental misspelling, as the dalekocrazy (rule by dalek-wannabes).
Note: It’s important not to captialise the daleks of the dalekocrazy. They haven’t got the class, intelligence, or skill of the actual Daleks.
The police and national guard represent a tiny force surrounded in poorly-held territory populated by nearly 200mn people. If even a small percentage are hostile they are horribly outnumbered. Given the US history of losing insurgencies (including its inability to control its southern states) the strategic genius recommenda they tread lightly.
ravensays
This is typical for Trump.
In 3 1/2 years he had yet to learn how to actually do his job of being President of the USA.
He isn’t going to figure it out ever.
To deal with the Covid-19 virus pandemic, he was reduced to doing nothing much. He would issue orders that weren’t enforceable with no followup.
“Open the churches.”
He doesn’t have that power.
Most of the churches didn’t bother opening anyway because they don’t want to kill their members.
To deal with opening up the US economy, Trump has been issuing unenforceable orders with no followup again.
To deal with widespread rioting across the USA, Trump has been issuing unenforceable orders with no followup. He’s also been making his usual bullying threats that we’ve heard so many times that no one bothers to pay attention to any more.
After any crisis where Trump does nothing much effective, he always looks for a distraction.
I suppose we will start beating up on China again, start a trade war with the EU, fire a bunch of scientists and Inspectors General, or start a real war with some Third World nation like Iran again.
drewsays
Trump is such an armed bunker quarterback.
unclefrogysays
@11
that is a cheerful realization.
one thing about the expected reaction / distraction to remember is that it will be ineffective at best if not completely counter productive. so more shit coming.
are you tired of wining yet?
uncle frogy
wzrd1says
@8 raven, there’s actually a lot that the National Guard and law enforcement can do to calm riots and tense gatherings. Part is diversion into areas where damage is more readily remediated, such as vacant blocks of buildings that have to be torn down for safety reasons. I can think of eight such locations in Philadelphia alone, other areas are large open areas, kind of hard to damage a large empty lot.
Part is getting the voices of the crowd out, talking people are far less likely to become violent.
Those who are trying actively to cause trouble, are armed or actively engaged in destructive actions are to be swiftly removed from the crowd, before a crime is committed is preferred, as once the individual calms down a bit, they can be released.
That is the doctrine I was trained in while in the US Army National Guard. That doctrine is antithetical to what Trump blathers on about.
But, oddly, he blathered about the National Guard as if he could mobilize them (he can, under certain specific conditions), yet griped that mayors didn’t mobilize the National Guard, which isn’t permitted. That’s a governor level authority, which anyone who passed elementary school level education well knows.
Oddly, Trump hasn’t answered my alter ego’s questions on all of those promised coal mining jobs, given the recently reported 15% additional losses in coal sales. I guess he’s not done winning, as there still are a few coal mining businesses in existence.
John Moralessays
blf @9,
I’ve been referring to his “administration” as the dalekocracy
‘Regime’ is better than “administration”, for its connotation.
Also, dalekakistocracy would be more appropriate, if more obscure.
Those who are trying actively to cause trouble, are armed or actively engaged in destructive actions are to be swiftly removed from the crowd
Right, time to remove the cops, then.
unclefrogysays
being armed would be pretty easily defined I would think but actively engaged destructive actions would allow a wider range of interpretation for arrest with the desire to disrupt demonstrations what a little rough stuff and a few hours in a cold cell to be released later depending on who and what.
it wont work the last 65 years should tell you that though.
the grievances have not gone way and with the “orders to go back to work pandemic or not” on top of 25% unemployed and the fundamental inequality there is only one road forward that does not lead to a worse situation it is not the one we have taken these last 200 years or so.
Howard Brazeesays
Trump has always been the bully coward who worked this way. And all he cares about is his status in that hierarchy.
blfsays
WMDKitty@17, Yes, that is my thought as well: Should the military or whatever be activated, the goal would be to neutralise the (immediate) cause, which are the policegoons.
Sean Boyd says
The fucker is just a couple of syllables away from going full-on Dalek.
stroppy says
Four syllables by my count, repeated over and over.
IX-103, the ■■■■ing idiot says
This time he’s at least consistent with his position in how China handled the Tiananmen square protests:
https://mobile.twitter.com/GoAngelo/status/1266242956752642049
It seems like he puts really puts the “dick” in dictator.
Martin Lefebvre says
Is this the point where he’s about to ask for the location of Armeeabteilung Steiner?
daverytier says
A tyrant wannabee is being tyrant wannabee. Nothing new there. The level of conspicuousness, however, is.
LykeX says
He’s just so transparently pathetic. Clearly, his frustration is growing and he has no idea what to do, other than just yell at people and demand they make it better.
lumipuna says
I can see that American people are not a pushover.
American people – local activists, journalists, social media amplifiers – critical of the government are the main reason the world knows about these atrocities, to the point of not being able to look away.
My sympathies to You The People.
raven says
In the real world, the police, National Guard, and US military can’t do all that much to stop the riots.
In theory, they could just start shooting and kill a few hundreds or thousands of protesters.
That has its own problems though.
You go from being a police force to being an occupying force.
So you have to keep applying more and more violence more often.
At some point, the soldiers get tired of killing their friends, relatives, and neighbors and stop.
The regime falls.
We’ve seen this before.
When the old USSR fell, there was a counter revolution by the commies.
The people went into the streets.
The army refused to slaughter them and they won.
Strangely enough, one of guys watching this was a KGB agent named Vladimir Putin.
Same thing happened in East Germany.
Iran of the Shah.
The army in Iran shot unarmed protesters for days until they couldn’t make themselves keep doing it.
blf says
@1, I’ve been referring to his “administration” as the dalekocracy — rule by daleks — for some time now. Actually, after an accidental misspelling, as the dalekocrazy (rule by dalek-wannabes).
Note: It’s important not to captialise the daleks of the dalekocrazy. They haven’t got the class, intelligence, or skill of the actual Daleks.
Marcus Ranum says
The police and national guard represent a tiny force surrounded in poorly-held territory populated by nearly 200mn people. If even a small percentage are hostile they are horribly outnumbered. Given the US history of losing insurgencies (including its inability to control its southern states) the strategic genius recommenda they tread lightly.
raven says
This is typical for Trump.
In 3 1/2 years he had yet to learn how to actually do his job of being President of the USA.
He isn’t going to figure it out ever.
To deal with the Covid-19 virus pandemic, he was reduced to doing nothing much. He would issue orders that weren’t enforceable with no followup.
“Open the churches.”
He doesn’t have that power.
Most of the churches didn’t bother opening anyway because they don’t want to kill their members.
To deal with opening up the US economy, Trump has been issuing unenforceable orders with no followup again.
To deal with widespread rioting across the USA, Trump has been issuing unenforceable orders with no followup. He’s also been making his usual bullying threats that we’ve heard so many times that no one bothers to pay attention to any more.
After any crisis where Trump does nothing much effective, he always looks for a distraction.
I suppose we will start beating up on China again, start a trade war with the EU, fire a bunch of scientists and Inspectors General, or start a real war with some Third World nation like Iran again.
drew says
Trump is such an armed bunker quarterback.
unclefrogy says
@11
that is a cheerful realization.
one thing about the expected reaction / distraction to remember is that it will be ineffective at best if not completely counter productive. so more shit coming.
are you tired of wining yet?
uncle frogy
wzrd1 says
@8 raven, there’s actually a lot that the National Guard and law enforcement can do to calm riots and tense gatherings. Part is diversion into areas where damage is more readily remediated, such as vacant blocks of buildings that have to be torn down for safety reasons. I can think of eight such locations in Philadelphia alone, other areas are large open areas, kind of hard to damage a large empty lot.
Part is getting the voices of the crowd out, talking people are far less likely to become violent.
Those who are trying actively to cause trouble, are armed or actively engaged in destructive actions are to be swiftly removed from the crowd, before a crime is committed is preferred, as once the individual calms down a bit, they can be released.
That is the doctrine I was trained in while in the US Army National Guard. That doctrine is antithetical to what Trump blathers on about.
But, oddly, he blathered about the National Guard as if he could mobilize them (he can, under certain specific conditions), yet griped that mayors didn’t mobilize the National Guard, which isn’t permitted. That’s a governor level authority, which anyone who passed elementary school level education well knows.
Oddly, Trump hasn’t answered my alter ego’s questions on all of those promised coal mining jobs, given the recently reported 15% additional losses in coal sales. I guess he’s not done winning, as there still are a few coal mining businesses in existence.
John Morales says
blf @9,
‘Regime’ is better than “administration”, for its connotation.
Also, dalekakistocracy would be more appropriate, if more obscure.
gijoel says
He’s pretty tough whilst he’s cowering in his bunker.
WMDKitty -- Survivor says
wzrd1 @14
Right, time to remove the cops, then.
unclefrogy says
being armed would be pretty easily defined I would think but actively engaged destructive actions would allow a wider range of interpretation for arrest with the desire to disrupt demonstrations what a little rough stuff and a few hours in a cold cell to be released later depending on who and what.
it wont work the last 65 years should tell you that though.
the grievances have not gone way and with the “orders to go back to work pandemic or not” on top of 25% unemployed and the fundamental inequality there is only one road forward that does not lead to a worse situation it is not the one we have taken these last 200 years or so.
Howard Brazee says
Trump has always been the bully coward who worked this way. And all he cares about is his status in that hierarchy.
blf says
WMDKitty@17, Yes, that is my thought as well: Should the military or whatever be activated, the goal would be to neutralise the (immediate) cause, which are the
policegoons.