“Poor” is better than I would give him (them) if they had some more accurate choices like awful, horrible, shitty, fucked up…you know, what it’s really like.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trollssays
I would have liked to see “an arrogant and ignorant bad rugged narcissist without a clue on how to govern, total failure.”
redwoodsays
That poll is rigged! Sad!
robrosays
According to their map…which oddly shows results for only 4 states…he’s doing worse in Texas (87% Poor) than in California (67% Poor). If that stands, it suggests that even his vaunted base may be turning against him.
According to their map…which oddly shows results for only 4 states…he’s doing worse in Texas (87% Poor) than in California (67% Poor). If that stands, it suggests that even his vaunted base may be turning against him.
That’s one plausible possibility.
Another is that poll respondents are not a random/representative sample of the population, but rather of that subset who have sufficient motivation to participate (look at the pronounced bimodality).
John Moralessays
gijoel, yes, though I think more significant is that the last option is the only one with no elucidation.
(A very crude use of priming)
John Moralessays
[Argh!]
To anchor, my previous.
Sorry.
Pennysays
I have just voted. I’m in the UK. I wonder if Fox are going to add a map of the rest of the world to their results map?
davidc1says
There is a story on fox nation about hundreds of scientists asking the snatch snatcher to withdraw from the UN climate change agency .
Discuss.
DanDaresays
72 pct poor now
cvoinescusays
I now realize that we all misunderstood Trump. It does not look like he’s draining the swamp, as promised. But he is! He’s draining the swamp into his administration.
slithey tove (twas brillig (stevem))says
Would prefer a 5 star YELP scale, where he could get (NEGATIVE 5) stars.
Maybe Stars for positive, Turds for negative == I’d give him 10 out of 5 Turds for negative quality.
Just in case anybody missed the point, each article on the Foreign Ministry website carried a big red label reading FAKE in English and a line saying that the information in the article does not correspond to reality.
[…] The Foreign Ministry’s new venture in singling out fake news seemed to fit a pattern identified by many analysts of creating alternative realities meant to sow confusion in people’s minds, in that way discrediting all news sources.
It was hard for some critics to take the ministry’s fake news detector seriously, and some suggested that inclusion there was something of a badge of honor, an indication that the article had hit close to home.
The Foreign Ministry has become a propaganda wing serving the Kremlin rather than a diplomatic service that establishes foreign policy, said Alexei A. Venediktov, the longtime editor of the respected Echo of Moscow radio station.
“You shouldn’t worry at all,” he said, but should instead consider being singled out by the Foreign Ministry to be an honor “like a medal.”
[…] The spokeswoman emphasized that the Foreign Ministry would consider the news fake when it failed to include Russian reaction or the Russian position on the issue. […]
Badge of Honour indeed!
And, according to the alleged criteria, the news [is] fake when it fail[s] to include Russian reaction or the Russian position on the issue, faux’s “poll” is “obviously” “fake”!
(As the article goes on to note, “There is a rather distinct gap between what Russia is accused of disseminating and what it labeled fake news. […] Seemingly borrowing a practice from President Trump, Russia appears to be labeling as fake any articles it dislikes.”)
slithey tove (twas brillig (stevem))says
My vote of [POOR] brings the totals (@9:21 Eastern Time 2/24/17) to:
such a biased poll, even the middle (which would conventionally be zero) is Positive with blame being thrown at protestors euphemized as “unnecessary controversies”). And this is a site that claims
for those opposed to intolerance, excessive government control of our lives, and attempts to monopolize opinion or suppress freedom of thought, expression, and worship.
yet they strongly support the exemplar of intolerance. I smell a contradiction.
Why am I not surprised from a place called FauxNation.
robrosays
John Morales @ #10 said “poll respondents are not a random/representative sample…” Exactly the reason for my equivocal language. I wouldn’t even know about the poll except for PZ’s post. Plus it’s a relatively small sample, and a badly designed poll (can we say “demand characteristics”). Still, you would think the intersection of Texas and Fox would mean a lot of pro-Trumps votes to drown out poll hackers like me.
It’s a totally weird poll at best. I check it out at least once a day, and it seems to get reset every couple of days or so. And the longer I follow the (so-called) results, the more they seem to be skewing away from what fRump would like to see. I’ve voted some of the same questions up to perhaps a dozen times.
jrkrideausays
I thought Trump was doing quite well. One would have expected his approval ratings to be in the single digits by now.
And he is well liked in the UK. Why, look at all the nice things the MPs are saying about him. And only 1,850,000 people in the UK have signed a petition saying he should be have a state visit.
robro says
“Poor” is better than I would give him (them) if they had some more accurate choices like awful, horrible, shitty, fucked up…you know, what it’s really like.
Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls says
I would have liked to see “an arrogant and ignorant bad rugged narcissist without a clue on how to govern, total failure.”
redwood says
That poll is rigged! Sad!
robro says
According to their map…which oddly shows results for only 4 states…he’s doing worse in Texas (87% Poor) than in California (67% Poor). If that stands, it suggests that even his vaunted base may be turning against him.
Marcus Ranum says
He’s gonna wear his little short fingers off tweeting revenge at all those people who are fake polling! Sad!
Beatrice, an amateur cynic looking for a happy thought says
Very sad. Not good.
chigau (ever-elliptical) says
Double plus sad. Double plus ungood.
anchor says
That intermediate choice of “mixed” with the qualification is stupid.
gijoel says
WORST. PRESIDENT EVER!!
Also this.
John Morales says
Robro @4,
That’s one plausible possibility.
Another is that poll respondents are not a random/representative sample of the population, but rather of that subset who have sufficient motivation to participate (look at the pronounced bimodality).
John Morales says
gijoel, yes, though I think more significant is that the last option is the only one with no elucidation.
(A very crude use of priming)
John Morales says
[Argh!]
To anchor, my previous.
Sorry.
Penny says
I have just voted. I’m in the UK. I wonder if Fox are going to add a map of the rest of the world to their results map?
davidc1 says
There is a story on fox nation about hundreds of scientists asking the snatch snatcher to withdraw from the UN climate change agency .
Discuss.
DanDare says
72 pct poor now
cvoinescu says
I now realize that we all misunderstood Trump. It does not look like he’s draining the swamp, as promised. But he is! He’s draining the swamp into his administration.
slithey tove (twas brillig (stevem)) says
Would prefer a 5 star YELP scale, where he could get (NEGATIVE 5) stars.
Maybe Stars for positive, Turds for negative == I’d give him 10 out of 5 Turds for negative quality.
blf says
Sort-of related, With Big Red Stamp, Russia Singles Out What It Calls Fake News:
Badge of Honour indeed!
And, according to the alleged criteria, , faux’s “poll” is “obviously” “fake”!
(As the article goes on to note, “There is a rather distinct gap between what Russia is accused of disseminating and what it labeled
[…] Seemingly borrowing a practice from President Trump, Russia appears to be labeling as fake any articles it dislikes.”)slithey tove (twas brillig (stevem)) says
My vote of [POOR] brings the totals (@9:21 Eastern Time 2/24/17) to:
[great] = 20 – – –
[mixed] = 7 –
[poor] = 73 – – – – – – – – – –
such a biased poll, even the middle (which would conventionally be zero) is Positive with blame being thrown at protestors euphemized as “unnecessary controversies”). And this is a site that claims
yet they strongly support the exemplar of intolerance. I smell a contradiction.
Why am I not surprised from a place called FauxNation.
robro says
John Morales @ #10 said “poll respondents are not a random/representative sample…” Exactly the reason for my equivocal language. I wouldn’t even know about the poll except for PZ’s post. Plus it’s a relatively small sample, and a badly designed poll (can we say “demand characteristics”). Still, you would think the intersection of Texas and Fox would mean a lot of pro-Trumps votes to drown out poll hackers like me.
Paul says
It’s a totally weird poll at best. I check it out at least once a day, and it seems to get reset every couple of days or so. And the longer I follow the (so-called) results, the more they seem to be skewing away from what fRump would like to see. I’ve voted some of the same questions up to perhaps a dozen times.
jrkrideau says
I thought Trump was doing quite well. One would have expected his approval ratings to be in the single digits by now.
And he is well liked in the UK. Why, look at all the nice things the MPs are saying about him. And only 1,850,000 people in the UK have signed a petition saying he should be have a state visit.
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2017-02-20/debates/34847E5C-8B14-46E6-8251-AE99526CC011/PresidentTrumpStateVisit