The right-wingers are fighting among themselves again, inspired by Hegseth’s bombing of boats. Claire Lehmann, the terrible racist founder of Quillette, starts the bickering by complaining about the sinking…not that she opposes murdering random people from South American countries, but that it doesn’t look good and you should be more quiet about the slaughtering:
This is really grotesque.
(And look I get it that sometimes hard men need to do ugly things. But if you’re going to do this, don’t broadcast it, & don’t brag about it. FFS)
Billionaire Joe Lonsdale responds. If you’ve forgotten who he is, he made his fortune by starting out under Peter Thiel at PayPal, and then got really rich with Palantir, the company that profits from spying on your internet usage all around the world. Later, he was one of the founders of the University of Austin, the fake college for far-right and libertarian freaks. He wants more publicity for extra-judicial murder.
She’s just wrong. Leftist schoolmarm leaders cause violence and evil in our civilization.
Sinking narco boats publicly helps deter others. As does hanging repeat violent criminals.
Killing bad guys is DoW job. He should brag more. Masculine truth: bold, virtuous men deter evil.
He’s a good example: bold, virtuous men failed to deter Joe Lonsdale. He might be on to something here, that maybe it’s time to hang a few billionaires to teach a lesson to those greedy parasites. He wants more than killing a few “narcoterrorists” (who haven’t been tried and convicted of anything), just public hanging for lots of crimes.
If I’m in charge later, we won’t just have a three strikes law.
We will quickly try and hang men after three violent crimes. And yes, we will do it in public to deter others.
Our society needs balance. It’s time to bring back masculine leadership to protect our most vulnerable.
For future reference, this is how billionaires want to run their utopia, in a “masculine” fashion with lots of public violence. I say we should hang them first. Viva la revolución! Give them what they want.
Leftist Schoolmarms are notorious for their violence and brutal assaults on society.
Correct me with I’m wrong, but historically public execution did not reduce violent crime. Or NON violent crime.
“ I say we should hang them first. Viva la revolución! Give them what they want.”
Liberals: “Whaaaaaa! Stop saying mean things! Donald Trump and his supporters were simply not hugged enough as children! They need to be loved, and understood, and educated, and loved, and listened to, and loved, and rehabilitated, did I mention they should be loved?”
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Actual, liberals, not some people’s imaginary ones – “If we devolve to their level, we become them. But, yeah, also, if you are raised to be a complete asshole, by assholes, its kind of really likely you will turn out as an asshole. Case in point, the sort of assholes that claim we are merely talking about ‘feelings’ rather than learned behavior.”
The xian fundies and their political arm, the GOP are never too far from violence and murder as solutions to any problems.
Last century it was the female slavers/forced birthers and their family planning clinic bombings and assassinations of health care workers.
These days they’ve branched out to ICE/BP and their daily terrorism. murders of Democratic elected officials such as the ones in Minnesota, supporting the Israeli slaughter of people in Gaza (67,000 killed), and anonymous boats in the Caribbean.
So, who are they going to kill next?
Trump has already declared war on Nigeria and apparently, already forgotten that he declared war on Nigeria.
Trump already threatened Canada and when they didn’t immediately back down, forgot about it.
Greenland didn’t get very far when the Greenlanders backed by the Danish and the EU didn’t immediately run away.
Probably Venezuela.
They have oil and an unpopular and ineffective government.
It might be California, New York city, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, or Seattle though. The easy thing about sending US troops to invade the USA is that those places don’t actually have armies of their own.
But not necessarily in that order.
Re: Strewth @ #2…
Years ago I read that pickpockets worked the crowds that assembled to watch the hanging of…pickpockets.
That’s Hegseth and Trump for the chop, then. I mean, why do something as compassionate as hanging if you want a real deterrent? There are still headsman’s axes and swords in the museums, sittting there gathering dust. I’m sure there will be plenty of bloodthirsty volunteers eager to swing the axe, and after a dozen botched jobs they’ll probably get the hang of it. And if that still doesn’t work as a deterrent, there are plenty more traditional methods worth restoring. Hanging, drawing and quartering. Breaking upon the wheel. Impalement. Casting from the rock. Poena cullei. Crucifixion.
Back in the more ‘masculine’ 1950s we had the Friday Night Fights. Families would gather around their black-and-white TVs and watch men pummel each other between Gillette razor commercials. If this guy is in charge, perhaps we’ll have the Friday Night Hangings. Great fun for all ages. Watch men dance at the end of a rope. This way, your 5-year-old son can learn what it means to be a bold, virtuous man.
They used to hang pickpockets in London. Pickpockets were hard at work in the crowd watching the executions.
I’m sick of seeing the subtext that manly men must be lawless loose cannons. It’s erasing the value in laws and civil rights that protect the innocent.
I expect a lot of innocent fishermen have died because Trump and Hegseth want to “win” the toxic masculinity contest.
What they really want is what we have now but even more so.
This has nothing to do with justice, law, or masculinity.
It is the fundie xian/GOP’s desire for performative cruelty.
They just like watching people suffer, get sick, get injured, and die.
It’s like the ancient Roman Gladiator games except it isn’t as organized. Yet.
I wrote about this yesterday so here is a list of examples.
Tin soldiers and Trump are coming
We’re finally on our own
This summer I hear the drumming
Four dead in…
Not Ohio. Hmm. Where will it be?